有名气有传统高大上的私校不一定就是好的,Ofsted批查尔斯上过的“小学”不合格!

选择公校的时候大家可以用考试成绩排名榜和Inspection的Report来进行判断,选择私校就没有这么容易了,因为私校没有义务公布考试成绩甚至可以不参加全国性的考试。

因为申请大学需要A Level和GCSE成绩,私立中学肯定是参加全国考试的,大部分私立中学也公布考试成绩参加排名榜,但有些私立中学抵制排名榜他们说考试成绩不是他们的唯一教学目标甚至不是主要教学目标。

小学阶段的考试SAT 2(11岁)可以说是小学毕业考试,因为这个考试成绩没有什么用,有些私立小学不参加这个考试,就算参加了大多数不公布考试成绩。私校联盟虽然也做inspection但inspection report信息不多。没有考试成绩做参考,大家在选择私立小学的时候就只能靠口碑了,比如其它父母的经验,学校的传统名气等等。

在South Kensington的Hill House international junior school是一个PrePrep和Prep一起的学校(4到13岁的孩子),一年14k的学费在小学里面算是贵的了,当年查尔斯去苏格兰上中学以前就是上的这个学校,算是个有传统有名气的高大上学校了,虽然英国王室不注重孩子的学术成绩(academic performance)菲利普亲王讨厌和排斥知识分子但他们选择的学校应该不差吧?

最近Ofsted的报告说这个学校不合格(inadequate),除了校舍安全等问题外Ofsted主要批评了学校的数学和写作水平以及老师给学术很少的学习支持,教育部(DoE)的有关官员现在正在研究这个报告决定是不是关闭这个学校。

这个学校的校长指责这个报告完全错误,他强调这个学校的学生如何happy如何有talent行为如何好等等,他说的这些完全正确,Ofsted的report也确认了这些,但他回避了关键问题,那就是数学和写作的标准以及老师给学生的学习支持。
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声明:我不知道这个学校,对它也没有任何兴趣,我发这个贴完全是因为看到了这个新闻的感想,另外对很多私校不愿意或者不敢公布考试成绩非常反感。

£14,000-a-year school attended by Prince Charles branded inadequate by Ofsted
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/prep-school-prince-charles-inadequate-ofsted-rating-hill-house-international-junior-school-west-london-10100098.html

The £14,000-a-year prep school attended by the Prince of Wales could face closure after being branded inadequate in all areas in a damning Ofsted report.

Inspectors said pupils at Hill House international junior school in west London are not safe, do not make adequate progress and school leaders do not have the capacity to secure improvements.

The report criticised standards in maths and writing, said teachers are given little support and called for an urgent overhaul of health and safety procedures.

The family-run school was set up in 1951 and now runs out of several small houses in Kensington and Chelsea. It lists its number one rule as “safety of the boy and girl”.

But strikingly the report highlighted “significant failings” in security, saying visitors are not asked to sign in or out of the buildings and supervision of pupils is “sometimes lax”.

Some fire exits are hazardous, there is no fire safety policy and “the health and safety of both pupils and adults in the main school are severely compromised”, it said.

Today a spokeswoman for the Department for Education said ministers are studying the report and will confirm their decisions about regulatory action shortly. She added: “It would be wrong to take any decisions until we have studied the findings, but all options remain open — including closure. We have repeatedly demonstrated for all types of school that we will not hesitate to take tough action if required.”

Principal Richard Townend, whose late father Lt Col H Stuart Townend founded the school, has written to parents saying the report does not represent the school.

He wrote: “As I go around the school I see happy children enjoying being at school, working hard and making great progress in a safe environment.”

He added: “We provide opportunities in art, music, drama and sport which others envy. Each Wednesday the Assembly astonishes visitors with its display of talent in our school and the feeling of corporate warmth, friendliness and support of the whole Hill House family — pupils, parents and tutors. These are things of the greatest value.”

Pupils, aged between four and 13, are regularly seen marching in crocodile form between the school’s sites wearing their rust and gold uniform, including breeches and striped cravats, which are only available from Harrods. They enjoy compulsory swimming lessons, trips to Switzerland and sports practice at the Duke of York’s Barracks in King’s Road.

The school, which has almost 1,000 pupils, was chosen by the royal family in 1956 for Prince Charles — the first time an heir to the throne had attended school outside the royal household.

The following year the Queen, Prince Philip and Princess Anne visited for sports day. Singer Lily Allen is also a former pupil. Described by the Good Schools Guide as having an “eccentric ethos”, the school has pupils from more than 50 countries and none are eligible for free school meals.

Ofsted inspectors praised their behaviour, saying they are “mature, confident, respectful and tolerant”, and enjoyed a wide range of musical and sporting activities in London and the school’s annex in Switzerland.

Mr Townend said the school will “explore in detail every criticism they have made and correct anything which needs attention”. The school has already commissioned Capita to overhaul health and safety and is conducting a security audit.

The school’s last full Ofsted inspection was in December 2012 when it was judged to be “good”.

In May last year Ofsted carried out an emergency inspection at the request of the Department for Education after a routine survey of pupils. The quality of education for pupils was judged to be effective, but inspectors found that the school was failing to meet a number of regulatory requirements, including a significant number relating to the welfare and safety of its pupils.

家隔壁得nursery offsted就是inadequate,之前挺排斥,不想让孩子去,结果孩子去了也不反感,玩的还挺happy得,就让他一直去了。
没有什么活动,唱歌讲故事啊什么得,就是孩子瞎玩。
不过这个年龄,玩的happy也就行了,也不要求太多。

所以觉得那个校长说的还是有他道理得:cn08:

Hill House这个学校算是个名校,很多家长也很满意,毕业生上名中学(比如Eton,Harrow,St Paul等)的比例也非常高,但是as of 10 March 2015, the school has just been rated “Inadequate” across all categories by Ofsted due to a failure to ensure safeguarding procedures and the quality of teaching. 别的到是没有什么,但如果the quality of teaching是inadequate,老师对学生provide little support那很难justify一年14k的学费啊。:cn14:

教学质量和校风很重要,我一般在选学校时,都是先查offsted report. 孩子在上小学时,在学校玩得开心是件好事,可是如果只是为了玩而进一所教学质量差的学校,最后得不偿失,我一位朋友儿子上学前在家可以数1至10,上了学后一段时间只能数1-5,倒退了。其实小学能把基础打好,上了中学后会轻松好多。

一个小学,如果学生大部分去了伊顿圣保罗什么的,无论你给其什么评价,或者找茬儿看的访客是不是要sign in / out , 家长还是会趋之若鹜的
就像一个中学,如果学生最后大部分都去了牛剑,那就是一个好学校

这个学校毕业生的去向可以说是very impressive,但这不一定说明这个学校是impressive,有可能是学生very impressive,这个是个international school到这个学校上学的很多是外派到伦敦的家庭的孩子,就是说这个学校的主要学生成份都是比较成功家庭出来的,他们的孩子不管到那个学校一般都会比较成功。

有一个家长为给女儿找学校去这个学校访问的印象,非常好的学校,学生非常confident有great personal skills,每个时候都有很多有意思的activities,但她得出了和很多父母一样的结论 “Hill House is a perfect place for outgoing, active and sporty children”,学校的很多活动都是学生主导的,这样的环境对性格外向有闯劲的孩子非常适合,可以让孩子的性格和个性充分发展,但她觉得她的女儿是比较安静的孩子需要个安静的学习环境来学习和思考,最后她没有选择这个学校。其实这个家长的印象和Ofsted的report的发现是一样的,学生不错但teaching quality不行老师给学生little support。

总的说,很难说那个学校是好学校,每个学校的风格不一样,适合自己孩子个性的学校才是好学校。:cn15:

哎,要是这么说,那就没有好学校了。要知道Ofsted是站在老百姓的大众教育标准评价,查尔斯上的学校和少数贵族学校针对的人群不同。记得伊顿工学的学校简介说,俺们这里不是培养学生的,是培养国王、大法官、和首相的。。。。

还好我马上要去的那个还不错

大哥,我选学区的时候是该选中学好的区还是小学好的区呢?
现在的困境就是两个都好的区我买不起。
只能二选一。当然,我肯定不会选小学差的区,只是一般,评分都在2,成绩中等,有些甚至在平均线以下,这样可以么?
我想了好久,好像中学比小学更重要,所以我在想我就选一个好中学的catchment,然后小学可以是普通的?这样实际么?

如果是我的话会偏向小学,小学养成个好的学习习惯和取得独立学习能力,中学就好办了,再说几年以后的事情谁知道,说不定工党上台搞摇号上学了。:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

o .我倒是没想过这个习惯问题。因为我自己小学的学校很差,中学也差,都是靠自觉的,所以我倒是不懂怎么培养孩子学习积极性了。
那我倒是要看看附近好的小学,然后找个不差的中学,是这样吗?

现在的时髦都是小学上私校中学上公校,比如David Cameron,Nike Clegg,Michael Gault (前教育大臣),Tony Blair。。。。:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

其实英国好大学不少,如果不是obsess于牛桥,大部分中国孩子根本不需要怎么折腾。:lol

私校上不起,不能老大上了老二不上,两个供不起,而且不想把自己的生活质量因为一个小学校给压扁了。
能挤上好的小学公校就不错了。
我这儿有两个小学公校很好,都是outstandding的,两个都是村里的学校,虽说是村里的但一点都不小,有300多学生呢。但两个村的location都很偏啊。。。。555555555555

几个朋友的孩子都报了这个学校。据说是因为这个学校的孩子比较国际化,还有出生时报名了就可以上,不需要入学考试。个人不是很喜欢,教室小,跟迷宫一样。

我建议你就租吧!每年有5000左右的入学儿童进不了家长想要的公立学校。也就是说,你买了学区房也不一定进的了你想要的公立学校。所以如果只是为学校的话,租比较保险。

这个1-10和1-5都是是看孩子心情的吧?

嗯,这个建议不错,可以考虑先租后买,毕竟还有老二到时候也是要读的,不能说老大进去了就搬家,要是一直租,那么多年白给别人交按揭,好像不划算。

每个人的个人价值观差异比较大。很难说买房子还是租房子好。买个house天天修补,买个flat狂交物业费。如果是自己喜欢,怎么都好。
哪个给别人交月供是听着是挺吃亏的,但是,你就不怕买校区房以后,那个好学校几年后被ofsted出个不合格的报告?那房子跌的就惨了。

在中国学习差,没事打个小架,逃个小课而已。这伦敦差起来就不知道是进局子还是丢性命了。

这完全是一个misconception,学校的好坏对房价的影响微乎其微,因果关系是反过来的。房价高说明区好,区好孩子行为好家长重视教育,学生好学校也就好。
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