好消息好消息好消息,梅姨已经确认英格兰会成立更多的公立Grammar School而且会允许一些Comprehensive实行入学考试!

今天(2016年9月9日)梅姨已经确认英格兰会成立更多的公立Grammar School而且会允许一些Comprehensive实行入学考试!

这是公立中学系统的重大改革,有些报纸说是革命性的,这对目前没有Grammar school地区的中国家庭是个非常好的消息。我个人认为有下面的好处。

(1)把想好好读书的孩子和不想好好读的孩子分开让想好好读的孩子专心读书,目前Comprehensive的一个主要问题是有一些根本不想读书的孩子在学校里面,个别几个捣乱的孩子让别的孩子无法学习,听到过多次中国孩子就因为学习好在学校里面被公立甚至欺负的,分流以后这种问题就会减少了。

(2)给想读书的孩子有一个正常的读书环境,孩子受环境的影响很大,如果很多孩子都不学习以考C为目标,那要让少数孩子多努力一些考A非常非常困难。

(3)学校分流,让不同能力的孩子按照不同的速度和方式来学习,当老师的人都知道,把不同能力的孩子放在一起根本无法教,如果老师用适合能力差的孩子的教学方式来教那能力强的孩子就失去了兴趣就会成为捣乱孩子,如果教学方法适合中上水平的孩子那能力差些的孩子就失去自信心完全放弃学习了。

(4)Grammar的入学考试可以促进小学的成绩,有考试目标的压力学生和老师才有动力。

(5)减少买学区房的压力,如果入学是靠孩子的能力不是靠家长的住址,那买房时候就不需要考虑中学阶段的学区。

(6)减少中产阶级家庭送孩子上私校的压力。

看看媒体的报道


May’s school revolution: PM says EVERY school can become a grammar, new faith schools can be 100% selective and universities will have to open secondaries
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3780627/Theresa-says-school-grammar.html#ixzz4JlOaw8AP

The prime minister wants to end the ban on new grammar schools. Quite right too
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/09/grammar-school-selection-academies-comprehensives

May heralds expansion in school selection by ability
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37311023

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9月6日,好消息好消息好消息,泄密的政府文件说明英格兰成立更多的公立Grammar School完全可能。

中学期间上免费的公立Grammar School是很多中下收入阶级家庭孩子的目标,可惜的是英格兰一共只有168所这样的好中学(英格兰一共是3000多所公立中学),很多地区都没有,苏格兰威尔士没有北爱很多。

自从1960年代工党政府取消Grammar School系统以后,法律不允许成立新的Grammar school,工党一直是反对Grammar系统的,1998年工党Tony Blair治下立法不允许建立新的Grammar,保守党政策变化过但基本是支持扩大Grammar系统,2015年Kent那边的一个Grammar School成立了一个分校,这就给grammar school扩大甚至成立开了一个口子,中学上Grammar的Teresa May一直是支持扩大Grammar系统的,她成为首相以后自然谣言不断,最新泄露的政府文件表明政府已经在划在英格兰扩大现存Grammar school和成立Grammar school,政府的意图非常清楚,下面就是怎么在议会法律通过的问题了,保守党是党的政策,工党的话Jeremy Corbyn肯定强烈反对,虽然他自己是Grammar school出来的但他反对最厉害,当年因为他的美女老婆要送孩子去Grammar他就和老婆离婚了,工党内很多senior的人是grammar系统出来的应该有不少人会支持,最后结果怎么样大家拭目以待吧。

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关于什么是公立Grammar School以及历史看这个贴 https://bbs.powerapple.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2571658

还有BBC 网站Grammar schools: What are they and why are they controversial? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-34538222
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‘Grammar plans’ caught by photographer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37286475

Plans to open new grammar schools in England appear to have been accidentally caught by a photographer.

The document, photographed in Downing Street, proposes expanding current grammars before opening new schools.

It then raises doubts whether plans for more selective school places would pass through the House of Lords.

A government spokeswoman said it would be “inappropriate to comment on internal government documents”.

“The cat is out of the bag,” said Labour’s shadow education secretary Angela Rayner.

Liberal Democrat education spokesman John Pugh said: “It looks like a desperate plan to avoid parliamentary scrutiny and their inevitable defeat.”

The document, thought to have been carried by Earl Howe, deputy leader of the Lords, seems to have been written by Jonathan Slater, permanent secretary at the Department for Education.

It refers to Conservative plans to “open new grammars”, although with the provision that they would have to “follow various conditions”.

Analysis: What does this document tell us? And does it suggest that as well as more grammars, there could be a new style of grammar, admitting pupils on more than test results.

Education Secretary Justine Greening seems to want a slower approach, expanding current grammar schools before any plans to open new schools.
There is also a hint of distancing, wanting new grammars to be seen as an “option”.
Lifting the current ban on new grammars is not the same thing as opening lots of new schools.
This isn’t about returning to a selective education system, but an option to have a modest expansion in some selective schools.
Grammar schools would have some strings attached, presumably such as making greater efforts to include poorer pupils.
This could mean changes for current grammar schools, with the rather coded reference to “not disadvantaging those who don’t get in”.
The House of Lords is seen as a serious block to a return to selective education.

There have been concerns that grammars have a disproportionately affluent intake - and these “conditions” might suggest that new grammars might have obligations to admit more poorer pupils.

There are also hints at a difference in emphasis within Conservative ranks - with the education secretary wanting to expand the current grammars before opening any new schools.

A long-running dispute in Kent was resolved this year when an existing grammar school was allowed to open another branch in another town, on the basis that this was the expansion of an existing school, rather than opening an entirely new school.

Education Secretary Justine Greening is described as wanting new grammars to be presented in the consultation document “as an option” and “only to be pursued once we have worked with existing grammars to show how they can be expanded and reformed”.

But the note says: “I simply don’t know what the PM thinks of this.”

And it says: “I simply can’t see any way of persuading the Lords to vote for selection on any other basis.”
Social mobility

Before opening any more grammars, the government would have to change the law, which at present outlaws the creation of new grammar schools in England.

If the government thought that this would face too difficult a path through Parliament, existing grammar schools could open such “satellite” campuses on other sites.

There have been suggestions that new grammars could be opened as part of the free school programme, which could be adapted to allow selection by ability.

The prospect of a return to grammar schools has had some strong support among Conservative backbenchers.

They have argued that admission by ability is more likely to promote social mobility, providing an opportunity for bright, poor pupils who do not live in the catchment areas of good schools.

But Ofsted chief Sir Michael Wilshaw said this week that the idea that poor children would benefit from a return of grammar schools was “tosh” and “nonsense”

Sir Michael said a return to selection at 11 years old would be a “profoundly retrograde step”.

[b]Labour’s Angela Rayner said: “Behind closed doors the Tories are planning a return to the bad old days of grammars, ignoring all the evidence which has told us time and again that they do not aid social mobility.”

John Pugh, of the Liberal Democrats, said: "This lays bare the desperate lengths the Conservative party are willing to go to deliver grammar schools through the cloak of expansion.[/b]

“The government should be ashamed of themselves. If they think this is the right thing to do, they should bring it to Parliament and win the argument.”

A government spokeswoman said: "The prime minister has been clear that we need to build a country that works for everyone, not just the privileged few.

"We are looking at a range of options to allow more children to access a school that lets them rise as far as their talents will take them.

“Policies on education will be set out in due course, and it would be inappropriate to comment further on internal government documents.”

先顶一下,再慢慢细看:cn15:

好消息。
我公司附近有一所Grammar School, 分男校女校。基本是所有中产以上家庭的目标,考不进这所学校就得花大钱送去私立读书了。

希望oxon能来几个

9月8日,梅姨保守党政府几十年以来的重大教育系统改革,Theresa May launches biggest education shake up for decades

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/09/theresa-may-every-school-in-england-will-be-given-opportunity-to/#update-20160909-0738

To end ban on new grammar schools
PM says private schools ‘divorced from normal life’
New powers given to faith schools
May: ‘I want Britain to be the world’s great meritocracy’

Private schools divorced from normal life’: Theresa May to get tough on independents in sweeping programme of education reform
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/09/theresa-may-every-school-in-england-will-be-given-opportunity-to/#update-20160909-0738

Theresa May says private schools must do more to keep tax breaks
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/sep/09/grammar-schools-face-radical-expansion-says-theresa-may

是啊,有一个就行。看起来提案不容易通过呀 {:5_139:}

英国从古到今都是阶级社会,精英社会, 工党一群SB想把英国完成全民都一样的SB? 玩社会主义?即使中国也是有不少实验小学,重点中学啊。 Grammer至少每个城市1,2个以上才够吧。

好消息!Corbyn因为这个离婚?政治理念高于家庭?

一方面可能是他的社会主义政治理念,另外一方面可能是当年他在grammar school非常unhappy,他中学毕业以后没上大学。

他老婆真的很漂亮啊,另外他儿子考上的qe boy是全英最牛公立grammar。

Labour leadership hopeful Jeremy Corbyn is so left wing that he divorced his wife when she refused to send their son to a failing comprehensive
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127962/Labour-leadership-hopeful-Jeremy-Corbyn-left-wing-divorced-wife-refused-send-son-failing-comprehensive.html

MP and wife split over school
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/1999/may/13/uk.politicalnews2
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/may/16/theobserver.uknews
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11677715/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-not-a-serious-politician.-I-should-know.html

这家伙被称为sexpot trot,很有女人缘,现在的老婆(第三个)也很年轻漂亮
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3258245/An-insight-marriage-Jeremy-Corbyn-Laura-Alvarez.html

Corby的铁杆,很多和grammar有关系

Jeremy Corbyn – Attended a grammar school. His son went to a grammar school.
John McDonnell – Attended a grammar school.
Seumas Milne – Sent both his son and daughter to grammar schools.
Diane Abbott – Attended a grammar school and sent her son to a private school.
Jon Trickett – Attended a grammar school.
Grahame Morris – Attended a grammar school.
Paul Flynn – Attended a grammar school.
http://order-order.com/2016/09/07/corbynistas-sent-kids-grammar-schools/

梅姨说支持结束限制grammar school的法律

PM Theresa May Says She Supports Ending Ban On Grammar Schools
http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-says-she-supports-ending-ban-on-grammar-schools-10569361
A briefing paper is accidentally seen by the press, revealing how the PM has backed the reintroduction of grammar schools.

Theresa May has told Conservative backbenchers she supports lifting the ban on grammar schools so every child can have “access to opportunity”.

Two MPs who attended a meeting of the 1922 Committee on Wednesday night confirmed to Sky News that the Prime Minister argued for an overhaul of England’s school system.

She told the gathering of backbench MPs that the best state schools have become the preserve of Britain’s elite, effectively shutting out the majority of children from the best education.

The sources confirmed Mrs May said, to cheers in the room: “We already have selection, haven’t we? It’s called selection by house price.”

The Government’s support for grammar schools was confirmed when a photographer snapped a Department for Education official carrying a briefing paper which outlined that a consultation document would recommend the change.
The revival of grammar schools could be bad news for the free schools announced under David Cameron
Image Caption: Many of the free schools announced by David Cameron could become grammars

New grammars were banned by Tony Blair’s government in 1998, amid concerns selective schools and the 11-plus exam favoured children who had attended private prep schools.

In the two decades since the ban, successive Conservative leaders have been nervous about opening the debate, despite the popularity of grammar schools among grassroots Tories.

But there is still concern among legislators and advisors - as well as deep opposition from the Labour and Liberal Democrat benches.

Angela Rayner, Labour’s shadow education secretary, told Sky News Mrs May was being “disingenuous” on the issue, because grammars “by their very nature are not inclusive, they are selective”.

She said: "It’s just completely false to suggest that’s the golden ticket out of poverty or deprivation and will give good education.

“We know that there are some really good comprehensive secondary schools with great leadership and we know that when our comprehensive schools work together we can raise standards across the board and that’s what we should be doing, not trying to bring in selection again.”

Former education secretary Ed Balls told Sky News the system was “archaic”, adding: “It is unfair, the evidence doesn’t back it up.”

Mrs May has said improving life chances for the struggling majority is one of the priorities for her government.

Both the Prime Minister and her chief of staff Nick Timothy attended grammar schools.

A consultation document on the proposal is expected to be launched next week, with a green paper to follow.

When the photograph of the briefing paper emerged, a Department for Education spokesperson said: "The Prime Minister has been clear that we need to build a country that works for everyone, not just the privileged few.

"We are looking at a range of options to allow more children to access a school that lets them rise as far as their talents will take them.

“Policies on education will be set out in due course.”
It is thought many of the free schools announced by her predecessor David Cameron could become grammar schools under the changes.


Labour‘s Angela Rayner says the cat is out of the bag over grammar schools

增加grammar school对华人来说是好事

是在学中国嘛? 成千上万的人去读大学毕业后又成千上万的人找不到工作{:5_129:}

相反。

Grammar系统就是把想上大学和适合上大学的孩子集中起来大家好好学习,其它不想上大学或者不适合上大学的人去发展其它方面的技能。:lol

更多学校变成grammar 是好事,可怎么保证新加入的学校的质量呢,仅仅有个名称没什么用吧,如果没有传统的grammar 好的话是不是存在隐形的分层和grammar 等级制了?

grammar selective的制度注定了就读的学生起点相对较高。但会致使多的学生参加a level考试,在大学有限的名额下,对于普通家庭来说竞争更激烈尤其是争所谓的名牌大学录取资格。一部分有钱的可能会弃grammar而选择较好的私立,反而会导致社会分化更严重,有钱的读名牌 没钱的基本都是去读普通大学 毕业竞争后在中小型公司企业的职位

不太明白你的观点,现在的系统就近入学,好的公立中学都在好区,而且学校附近的房子比周边房子贵很多,就是说没钱的家庭的孩子上好公立中学的机会非常小。

少数好的中学进行入学考试以后,没有钱住好学校附近的家庭的孩子如果资质不错而且想好好学习用公学习,还有机会进入公立好中学,为了避免避免有钱家庭补习考试占优势,新的grammar还要留一定比例的名额给低收入家庭,这些措施明显是给低收入家庭孩子一些以前得不到的机会。

如果有很多grammar,小学有考11+的压力,那小学的成绩也会提高的。还有当过老师的人都知道,把不同程度的孩子和想不想学的孩子放在一起根本无法教,成绩好的成绩差的学生都学不好,分流是解决问题的办法。

现存grammar school成绩好主要原因是学生好,老师和其它学校差不多。

grammar最主要的作用是分流,把学习好的和学习差的学生放在一起根本无法教,结果就是好学生被差学生拉下来,差学生也学不好,把学生分流,因材施教,对好学生和差学生都是好事情。

啊哟大哥,我觉得他长得也太寒蝉了,不过我喜欢听他的英语,觉得声音和音调都不错。他老婆美在WHERE?哈哈

列宁同志还是很精神的