【树洞账号】英国人这唱的是哪一出啊?

您可真够脸皮老老,希望您永远自己肚饱

很饱很饱,天天想减肥呐

这是公投后我看到最犀利的评论,转给英文好的童鞋,太长恕我不翻译了。

If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten … the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession … broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was “never”. When Michael Gove went on and on about “informal negotiations” … why? why not the formal ones straight away? … he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

对结果感到shocked不仅是留欧派,退欧派也同样感觉如此。现在后悔的是投票退欧的,因为有些人投退欧票是和政府赌气,讨厌他们两派的宣传中只是夸夸其谈,而没给出任何事实上的东西。而且更重要的一个原因是他们认为根本不会退出欧盟,所以投什么票无所谓。这些人正在争取二次公投。还有些投退欧的,以前不相信专家说的经济会受到影响,现在看到了,后悔了。丢不丢脸没什么,俄罗斯几次债务违约,够丢脸吧,但也没阻止很多人对普京的崇拜啊。不过对我来说,能二次投票更好,不能也无所谓,最终会看到损失最大的是哪些人。

欧盟已经开过会了,要求英国马上开启里斯本第50条,所以英国也留不下了。现在的欧盟气氛紧张,肯定不需要一个左右摇摆的成员,假设英国再搞第三次又说要退,欧盟怎么办?这条路是一条不归路,走上了就别回头了,因为别人也没有给英国后路。keep calm and carry on。

留欧的人很坚定很捥惜的
我从来没揺摆过信念

是投脫的和未投的在摇摆啊

另外我觉的你孕晚期有些激素分泌失调了,等生完6个月1年的再评论时政好了,我绝无贬意,恭喜你马上当母亲,然后体验一把全新的思路

keep calm 没必要,carry on 是必须的。但退欧的政客又说等等再退,难道要等到投退欧票的都感觉被骗,反悔才开启程序吗?难道要等到投票退欧的看到满大街的老外还没减少,他们被抢走的工作回不来了再退吗?我支持赶快退。

我支持观望

不要意气用事

这倒是的,怎么招都不太可能重投,不然岂不是国际笑话,何况你乐意欧盟也不乐意了

是不是笑话谁会笑?人人自危人心惶惶

目前就是争取更多时间,制定更完善的退留方案

退欧应该对乡下的学区房影响不大吧。。。最近半年看了不少学区房,近2个月都是加价10% sold。现在也还是sold状态,目前还没没见人pull out 重新放回market上。

昨天去一个好区的学区房跟邻居聊天。他是去年年初买的房子,关注这个学区的房子有2年了,他去年买的这个房子 刚放到market上18个小时,他立马就抢了,而且有不少房子都是在放到market之前就卖掉的

所以我觉得 整个英国房价会因为退欧而跌,但是对这种好的学区房影响不大,即使跌 也不会跌太多。而且也不一定会有人卖。这种学区房 大家买来一般都会住个10年左右

能跌就好,不跌也得买呀,或者随便买一个便宜点的,买房的钱省下来,以后上私立也行。现在孩子还在肚子里,所以还不是很着急,我们换了点英镑,先观望着。

我其实很calm啊,也许好像言语比较激烈,但是我一直都是这样的人,嘴把式嘛。留欧再惋惜也没有用,不如早点接受事实,然后move on吧。与其追悔不能改变的过去,不如想想怎么做可以带给自己更好的未来。我老公一直都是坚定的留欧派,我一直对他洗脑了几个月,他也还是投了留,不过他知道结果后,很快就接受事实啦,现在就想着退欧以后我们家该怎么弄,可以利益最大化。

现在刚退一团乱,对于未知的前方,不管是留欧还是退欧的人都会茫然不安,但既然结果如此,就踏踏实实想想接下来怎么应对呗。一些人一直在那儿讥笑讽刺退欧派是脑残、退欧就完蛋还有什么意义呢?

这篇文章的作者要吃药,要被气疯的节奏 哈哈 公投是有法律效力的,是民主的最高体现!不要浪费生命去生气了,与时俱进吧

好文章

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别理这个伦敦切尔西二货!他脑子不清楚

这话说的幼不幼稚。假设下次结果留欧,脱欧派又不干了呢?再投?什么时候是个完?

提这个问题 思维本来就比较单纯 呵呵 英国的社会意识形态有你说的那么不堪一击 国民智商真的那么低吗 你读读英国历史 那么对于今天的公投及苏格兰那边的“折腾”就不会这样看了 或者说在英国生活 就该入乡随俗一些 不要让天朝的教育与不好传统统治了大脑