终于收到永居了!(哭求帮助:10年永居被拒)

先是要感谢所有在苹果上安慰,鼓励和支持我的朋友。
今天终于收到我的永居了,结束了从7月开始申请到10月申请reconsideration至今,长达9个多月的等待。来之不易啊!

我要在这里和各位再分享一下经验。

我的mp真的很好。要不是他写信,我都不知道要等到何时。在ho有专门的部门是处理mp信件的,也是这个部门提醒了我的caseworker我的存在。所以在他写了第一封信之后,他们过了一个多月就立马回信给他,顺便问我要护照。其实我在去年10月就把护照寄给他们了,所以在收到ho的信的当天,我给mp发了封email,他没过15分钟就回复说,他当天就会写信给他们,让他们去找我的护照。5月初,他又forward了一封ho给他的回信,回信上说,他们已经开始处理我的case,也对问我要护照的事表示抱歉,并保证在2-4个星期之内给我决定。这一等就又是4个星期,我打电话给ho,有些肯查的说没结果,有些态度坏的就直接说他们不能查。昨天上班的时候忍不住,又播了一通电话过去,他们直接问我要case reference,然后告诉我已经寄出来了。用的是我7月时申请的信封,所以我可以在网上track。

昨天晚上没睡好,担心caseworker不肯承认错误。今天7点就把门窗全部开开等邮递员。结果是给我永居了,结束了我这长久以来焦虑和暴躁的日子。

最后还是提醒大家,如果有任何问题,找mp预约个时间,他们是免费为人民服务的。如果打电话给ho,大多时间他们都会说,他们只是customer service,不能看到个人的case。但是一个不愿查,可以再打一次,总有个好心的会帮你查。不过他们确实是不能跟caseworker联系,所以他们也不能帮你传话或帮你做个记录什么的。所有的ho客服到最后都会建议你写信,你自己写信都不够mp的信来得力量大,而且是转到相关的部门,那里的人会重视起来,然后去提醒caseworker。

大家如果有任何问题,我都愿意一一解答。

谢谢大家的祝福!

今天终于收到HO寄来的信,邮递员丢进门的时候,里面的信都掉出来了,因为不知道哪个糊涂蛋,连信封都没封.哎~ho的做事效率…

言归正传,信是原来那个拒我的caseworker写的, 信里的内容大致是这样的:

‘你的申请是在21/09/2011被拒的,原因是你的条件不符合。 你在14/12/2011寄信给我们要求我们重新考虑你的申请。我很抱歉这么晚才答复你。

我希望你可以把你的护照能够尽快寄给我,这样我们可以做更近一步的考虑。 为了帮助我们更快的帮助你,请你用我附给你的信封,在14天内把你的护照寄到信封上的地址。’

问题来了!!!

我的reconsideration的申请和护照是04/10/2011的那天寄到HO的。而14/12/2011的那封信是我去催他们给我update的信。现在我的10月寄去的信和护照到底去哪里了?

我要怎么告诉他,我早就寄出去了。我马上打电话给HO,等了好久,一个女人接了电话,我大致说了一下情况,她问我有没有当时royal mail 的reference no.,还好我收据还留着,她即刻在她的电脑上查,说是收到了,估计屏幕上显示的,跟我在royalmail网上看到的是同样的信息。她说她只是客服,不知道信寄到ho的哪个部门去了,而且她也不知道邮件是不是我的护照。所以她叫我写信给那个caseworker,让他去locate我的护照。

天晓得的!这一波到底要几折阿?ho怎么会不把我个人的所有材料放一起呢?当时我是寄回liverpool的,地址就是他们每次寄信来的地址。

我就怕现在如果他们把我的护照弄丢了该怎么办?因为护照上有我出入境的盖章,是我证明caseworker错误的唯一的证据。还有,我怕他又懒的去找,这样又不知道要等多久。

大家帮我想想办法吧!我真是受够了HO,被他们精神摧残够了。

更新:21/02/12收到MP写个ho的信:

MPs’ Liaison Unit
UK Border Agency
PO BOX 1586
Croydon
Surrey CR9 2XZ

20 February 2012

Your ref: 01xxxxxxx

Dear Sirs

I enclose a copy of a letter from my constituent, Mrs xx xx of xx xxxx road, Reading, Berkshire RGx xxx, sent to the Agency last October.

In her letter of 3 October 2011, Mrs xx xx explains why she is sure that she has qualified to become a permanent UK resident by virtue of having rsided here legally for ten years.

I should be grateful for a reply to the points made by my constituent which I can forward to her.

Yours Faithfully,

John Redwood

信没有defend我的字句,就像我当初expect的那样。只是chase updates。well,better than nothing。而且他还把我写成mrs了,晕倒。应该问题不大。

接下来还是一个字,等!

更新:17/02/12
今天去见了MP,他很严肃,见面时握了手,他身边坐着一个Councillor,我给他解释了一下,他没有让我解释得很详细,就让我把申请recosideration的信留下,说他会写信给Home Office。整个meeting的才5分钟,也不知道他有没有在我来之前研究过,所有他需要的信息也都在我给ho的reconsideration request letter上。他作的笔记不超过10个单词,也不问什么问题。出来后,我想估计他平时信写得多,专业也就是chase up某些政府部门的工作,所以我就不指望他会去ho的官网查long residence directory,他写信也就是催促ho快点给我一个答复,不会像律师一样,指出ho的错误,然后告诉他们我符合条件,快点把pr批给我。ho估计收mp的信也收的不少了,可能也巡例的回他一封:at this point, we can’t help you/update you with the process。我都不指望了!:frowning:

更新:03/10/11

信已经寄出去了.寄去了他们refusal letter上写的地址:
UK BOARD AGENCY
MANAGED MIGRATION
PO BOX 306
LIVERPOOL
L2 0QN
现在fingers crossed,他们肯review,然后重新考虑把ILR批给我。许愿中!

更新:01.10.11

信写好了,大家请帮忙批改:

Dear Sir/Madam,
My name is xx xxxxx (Nationality: Chinese; DOB: xx/xx/19xx) and I am writing to you regarding my recent Set(O) application for Indefinite Leave to Remain based upon 10 years continuous lawful residence in the UK (Case ID: xxxxxxxxxxxx). My application was refused based upon the following reason:

“It is noted that you had no valid leave in the United Kingdom during the periods

21/08/2004 - 26/08/2004
02/11/2009 – 17/11/2009

You therefore have not had at least 10 years continuous lawful residence in the United Kingdom and fail to meet the requirements of Paragraph 276B(i)(a). “

I would like to kindly request that you reconsider my application as having investigated the reason given above with my solicitor, it has become apparent that the gap 02/11/2009 – 17/11/2009 does not qualify as a break in my continuous residence due to the following: On 15/10/2009, before my visa expired, I left the UK to return to China where, on the 19/10/2009 at around 1pm local time I submitted my application for a new visa at the Visa Application Centre in Shanghai (1/F, Guangdong Development Bank Tower, 555, Xujiahui Road , Huangpu District, Shanghai 200023). The centre does not accept advance appointments, nor does it grant visas on the same day. My new visa was granted around 3 weeks later and was valid from 10/11/2009. On 17/11/2009 I returned to the UK using my new visa. According to the Immigration Directorates’ Instructions on Long Residence 2.3.4 Time Spent outside the UK and 2.3.10 Examples of continuous lawful residence Example 3 I have not broken my continuous lawful stay in the UK during this period as I was outside of the UK.

I have enclosed proof of my stay in China during this period, most notably my current passport which was stamped upon my arrival in Shanghai on 16/10/2009 (Page 7), my departure from Shanghai on 17/11/2009 (Page 7), and again on my return to the UK on 17/11/2009 (Page 11). I have also enclosed bank statements that again show I was in China during this period. Whilst at the Visa Application Centre in Shanghai on 19/10/2009, I also submitted my fingerprints for Biometric Information which can be verified by the Centre and further confirms that I was in China for this period.

I would like to apologise if my return to China during this period was not clearly highlighted in my original application, but I am hoping that by resubmitting this information and additional bank statement evidence you may kindly reconsider my original application on the basis that I will have had only a single gap of 5 days (21/08/2004 - 26/08/2004) in my 10 years lawful residence in the UK. I fully understand why my application was originally rejected on the misunderstanding that I had two gaps in my lawful residence, but it is my hope that you may now reconsider my application in light of 2.3.3 Breaks in lawful residence and the use of discretion in the Immigration Directorates’ Instructions on Long Residence. I note that in the case of an applicant having a single gap of no more than ten days, discretion would normally be appropriate, and I very much hope that this can be applied in this instance.

Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank you for the time taken to consider my application thus far, and express my deepest thanks if you are willing to consider my application one final time. Should you require any further information, or wish to discuss my application further, please don’t hesitate to contact me on 07xxxxxxxxxxxx and I will be very happy to help.

My deepest thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you in due course.

Yours faithfully

xx xxxxx

更新一下,30.09.11

先要谢谢各位的鼓励和帮助,让我终于从沮丧绝望中重新看到了希望。大家不像律师那样本着赚钱为目的,无私地给了我很多的建议。我真心谢谢大家!
说实话现在不再伤心,就只有觉得很生气,生气case worker的大意。建议没申请的同学们要在申请的时候尤其小心,要像对待3岁小孩一样对待case worker,因为我的案例就是这位Dave Lloyd先生一眼看到什么日期就写下来,也不管那是签证日期还是我入境日期。哎。。。

好了,话说回来,我刚才打电话去citizen advice bureau咨询了一下,电话那头的specialist把所有细节问得清清楚楚,然后说她要研究一下。过了10分钟,她回电说,我第二个period不存在,因为还是连续的,就如各位所说的一样,这样的话我就只有一个5天的GAP,在guideline写的是如果一个人在10年内有一个10天以内的GAP,casewokers should use DISCRETION granting ILR。所以现在就没有信心说,如果我解释了第二个不存在的gap,是不是他们就会不原意改变结果,然后以我4天的GAP来拒,因为他们可以说是以case worker的discretion。

哭了也累了一整天了.从headless chicken到生气,失望,无奈。。。

我在7月中旬申请了PR,因为来了10年了。苦等两个多月,今天下午收到信的时候开心的直冒汗,看到结果的时候连站的力气也没有了。

完全都没想到会被REFUSE。在无助的情况下,来这里哭求各位达人的帮助了。

被REFUSAL LETTER上写: It is note that you had no valid leave in the United Kindom during the periods

21/08/2004 - 26/08/2004
02/11/2009 - 17/11/2009
You therefore have not had at least 10 years continuous lawful residence in the United Kingdom and fail to meet the requirements of Paragraph 276B(i)(a)
郁闷的是,21/08/2004 - 26/08/2004 我知道有5天的GAP因为当时在签证过期前要预约面签,最早的日子是26号早上。但是因为只有5天,所以就自己写了covering letter解释了一下,也没请律师,想很多人都有10天以内的gap。

但是!02/11/2009 - 17/11/2009 这个GAP根本不存在。因为当时是学生签证到02/11/2009到期,所以为了签partner签证必须回国签(ho说的)。所以在上海的英国签证中心于19/10/2009就交了材料,缴了费用,按了指纹。过了2个多星期签证就送到家了,VISA页上写着VALID FROM 10/11/09。我没有马上回英国,到了17日才抵达HEALTHROW,所以就有个入境章,日期是17 NOV 09。

非常明显,case worker把日子搞错了。date of application raised是在19/10 所以在之前的签证过期前,所以不算gap。但是夸张的是case worker不仅忽略了这点,还把入境的日期当作visa valid的开始日期。

我很难解释我当时有多郁闷和生气。但是我怎么都找不到当时签证中心给我的任何receipt来证明我是什么时候提出申请的,而且当时是用现金付的,所以bank statement上也没有记录。

就算他把日子写的是我签证开始的日期(10/11/09),那他在HO工作,怎么会不知道,在中国是没有面签,所以不可能当天apply就可能批下来的。

我真的很气,但是平静的打电话给HO,结果反复跟我说同一句话:we are not the caseworkers, we are not allowed to comment or advise your result. you have to look for advice from Citizen Advice Bureau. 很明显是他们的mistake,但是我却要suffer,还不让我澄清。

重要的是,信上说,我不能appeal,因为我现有的签证还没有到期。

下午见了公司同事介绍的solicitor,他看了ho的refusal letter,就直接说这第二个不是gap。我问他是不是可以帮我写封信,解释一下,让caseworker可以reconsider我的result。因为我都花了那么多钱申请,没理由就因为HO的错误,就让钱就丢水里了。结果他说,他们还是可能refuse,因为HO不原意承认是他们的错误,这样以后申请其他的签证就会有难度。所以只能有两个选择,一是放弃,二是重新申请,fresh start,由他代我申请,解释每一条法律给caseworker听,可是全部费用加在一起打完折扣要2172磅。我是上班族,工资不高,申请个pr已经用掉了所有积蓄,如果要请这个律师,钱是问题,另外他说希望大,但是不保证能不能申请出来。

一个粗心的caseworker已经把我搞得整个人都崩溃了,如果请律师再花个2千多镑,再申请不出来,那怎么办?

话有点多了,希望大家找到了重点,小女子含着泪,肿着双眼在这里求求大家给点意见和建议吧!谢谢!!!

第一个不用在意,可以引用ho的instruction example,低于10天不算unlawful leave to remain.
1.An applicant has a single gap in their lawful residence due to submitting an application 7 days out of time. All other applications have been submitted in time throughout the 10 years period. Because the applicant has a single gap and submitted their application less than 10 days out of time, discretion would normally be appropriate.

第二个直接写信要求review就行了,你11月17日之前不在英国境,不需要valid visa,附上离境日期,和ho的instrcution example,

2.3.10 Examples of continuous lawful residence
Example 3
A person has leave in the UK that expires on 15 September 2008. The person departs the UK on 10 September 2008 (before their leave expired). Whilst the person is abroad they obtain fresh entry clearance and re-enter on 30 October 2008. Has continuous lawful residence been broken?
No. As the person was abroad while they had a gap in leave they have not broken their continuous lawful residence. However, had the person departed the UK after the 15 September 2008, (after their leave had expired), they would have spent time in the UK without lawful leave and therefore broken their continuous lawful residence.

整个文档是pdf档《IMMIGRATION DIRECTORATES’ INSTRUCTIONS–long residence》

lz可以下载研读一下,然后自己写封信,要求admin review~~律师的刀磨的真快!

就这两条要收lz 2000胖子,lz要是成了请我吃饭吧~~哈哈哈

太谢谢你了,本来第二个也不应该算,因为我在有效签证过期前申请,在拿到签证后一个星期入境,并不是在有效签证过期后,在入境当天申请签证。

现在怎么review,我要怎么写信给哪个部门解释呢?律师狮子大开口,如果真申请出来,小妹我肯定请你吃饭!

我真的好倒霉!真的没想到ho会出这种错误!

不用通过Appeal,你可以要求 Reconsideration。可以先写封信联系UKBA说明情况,他们会告诉你怎么做,就是比较花时间,慢慢来吧。

这里有个帖子你看一下,或许会有帮助,但他是通过Hight Court拿到Reconsideration权利的,因为申请人自身有问题,比你的情况复杂。你完全没有问题,明显是Caseworker的失误,成功机会很高的。

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=76193

你还有合法签证吗,合法签证期间是不能上诉的,我看到可以申请review的,自己写信把case reference no附上,然后要求review的理由,具体你可以写email或者电话ho

或者等等看坛子里有没有人有review经验的。几个版主应该都知道吧

看到网上有个email review request的lz 可以学习一下
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/break_in_lawful_residence_and_il

加油楼主!别灰心!

现在还有,到明年11月过期,所以不给上诉。

谢谢你的连接,我要好好研究。就怕HO不肯review,那怎么办?

不会不给review的他们要真敢不给你就照电话里说的去citizen advise bureau找免费律师,或者到时候再找律师对付他们,那个时候的律师费就要他们承担了。楼上有个朋友不是给了一个high court的例子。ho应该不至于这么傻。

mm别急啊,你先别哭了,今晚好好睡个好觉,明天起来估计还会有版主来指导你的。take it easy,在英国it’s not your fault你就不要担心了。有地方说理。

谢谢,只是这都是unnecessary hassel.

恩,ho里养的都是一群*。明白的东西都可以弄错,错了也不承认。我也得好好准备,和ho好好打场仗了。

谢谢你,给了我信心,给了我希望!我觉得心情好很多很多了,刚刚也鼓起勇气给家人打了电话,因为我怕如果我心情不平静,家人会担心。家人也很支持。
我真的很感谢大家。我明天早上就开始写信要求他们review.

写covering letter的时候要很当心很当心,说好听一点,他们像小孩一样。

该case worker应该是新手,从前苹果上类似的例子记得的也有好几次,基本上就是写信引用相关条例来解释,都是给原来的case worker的,只要抓住了对方犯的明显错误就最后都被通知寄回护照贴pr了,lz要是写给其他部门倒也算是替后人探路了:)
btw,bs一下那个磨刀的律师 :@
btw2,citizen advice bureau在the tories的cuts下已经不提供和immigration相关的legal aid了,因为他们砍移民还嫌不够,怎么会花钱去帮移民:L

不知道是不是新手,但是感觉所有决定都在他们一念之间,怎么没有第二个人check一下来避免错误,再怎么说他们是政府权利机构,收钱就跟明抢一样。
我需要再填一次申请表格吗?还是他们都会有存档?

感谢楼上的提醒,这一点我了解。就是心里有点气愤。我老公就被内政部的失误害过一回,我也差不多也遭过一次罪,知道即使是他们的错,也要说成是自己的错。所以现在学乖了,所有重要信息都回highlight, 以免这些不长眼的由看不见。虽然他们工作量大,也繁忙,但是我们也很惨啊。每次被拒都是心焦尽瘁,钱暂时不说,主要是精力。还有那可怕的等待!!!

不用重新填表,因为不是重新申请,写信就是了,提供ref,然后等对方电话或者mail吧,good luck:)
btw,就当做好事多磨吧:L

这位楼主好像很在行,我也想借此问下,我的第一本护照丢了,所以没有前4年的出入境记录。即使是从内政部要来的所有资料里面也没有任何资料,所以找了律师来帮忙。律师说,只能用估计的来计算出入境的时间。这个不知道是好还是不好,因为就我保守估计,我回国的时间应该超过要求的540天了。但就是因为护照丢了,所以无从算起。但是,我的申请递上去由7个月,还是没有任何消息。时间越久,就越没有信心。不知道这为楼主,有无这样的经验。

支持楼主!

这个就很难说了,我不敢说,因为没有相同经历,因为一般在03年后在英国签证SAR就会有记录。建议再问问版主和达人们

谢谢~准备合眼了,明天早上开始奋斗。