现在谁敢当首相?Boris敢嘛?

特别期待金毛当首相哈, 大家说他敢吗?
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/people-are-really-really-hoping-this-theory-about-david-cameron-and-brexit-is-true–bJhqBql0VZ

If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legislation to be torn up and rewritten … the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-manoeuvred and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession … broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was “never”. When Michael Gove went on and on about “informal negotiations” … why? why not the formal ones straight away? … he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

Jeremy 敢!

想看他怎么收场, 这两天他一定特痛苦吧 {:5_142:}

貌似没有任何迹象他能上得了台,Farage电视上那番话更是表明了这个锅他不背。

所以现在最大的问题就是谁来扛事,但是目测没人真能扛得了。。。

要是啥都能让你们这些人看透,那不是你也能去当MP/PM?
现在的情况跟去年的情况差不多,就是BoJo最领先,May也想,George Osbourne也想,但是戏不大。
很多Exit阵营的人要求必须要他们阵营的主导,这也是完全合情合理的。
另外,去看看BoJo最新的文章,他在渐渐形成他的政治观点中。

看政客们慢慢撕。

BoJo wants to be PM whatever it takes。

谁不想当?乱世才能出英雄,现在就是扬名立万的最好机会,估计那几个人都憋着劲呢

而且公投结束之后的表现,绝对是公关团队设计好的,既不表现得过于亢奋,但也亮出了自己的政治观点,不做缩头乌龟

而且现在真心怀疑卡梅伦真正的主张到底是什末,从力主公投,到去欧盟拿到一个没有干货的deal,再到包里斯突然跳出来支持退欧,然后卡梅伦表态无论留退,他都会坚持不辞职,然后就是包里斯一票人联名上书卡梅伦无论结果要留任,然后结果一出卡梅伦立马辞职,要让新领导掌舵退欧,同时留有几个月的缓冲,然后包里斯就开始表露主张,配合堪称完美,你要非说他们两个是敌对阵营,我真的不敢全信

你现在发现了,这个英国政坛都在演戏,想脱欧但是又想软着陆,不想欧盟方面太反弹。
看看现在各种regrexit的表演,真是什么都有。

希望他们如你所说有这一步的谋划。

政治都是表演 卡妹也是被逼无奈

他们要是能谋划出这来倒更好了,起码证明有脑有策略

就怕是一群傻子玩脱了,然而目前看来就是这样

没人敢担这个责任,没人愿做PM。即使Boris上台也会立刻进行general election。Boris也不想当个不光彩的PM,上去谈了谈发现没法谈就下台,或者上去以后不trigger article 50被赶下台,不管怎么都是输

个人觉得无需这么阴谋论地思考,这样他们两人要控制的变量太多,不确定性太大,不可能成功,所以不可能如此计划

确实是一帮傻子玩脱了,英国政坛没有一个领导者,都是十足的政治家/机会主义者,为了top job不惜拿国家前途做赌注,不论卡梅隆还是Boris都是一路货色

怀疑一切的精神值得肯定,但度是肯定有的,要整个国家陪你演戏,整个金融市场陪你演戏,恐怕还是有些难度的

事实就是选民被误导(不论脱欧还是留欧派),结果出来,市场大乱,资产缩水,普通人民当然恐慌,因为所有资产都是英镑计价啊

真正的精英阶层,根本不受影响,都是offshore account都是美元资产,说不定还有闲钱能hedge一下赚点零花钱

脱欧派觉得给那些精英敲了个警钟?我觉得没敲到,反而是伤了自己不少。现在自己伤到了才regret。当然伤害最多的是交税最多的中产阶级/年轻人,因为还年轻,很多资产都是股票,伤害最大,老人们都是Bond伤害最小。

声明我没有blame任何人的意思,只是觉得那些政治家/机会主义者玩脱了,现在又要让屁民来买单,不论这个屁民是pensioner还是中产

我支持金毛上,BB那么久了,上嘛。大不了和England足球队一样,不行就sorry,不行就辞职。不行就‘mistake’,总之我当过PM了,其他的你们自己BB去吧。

我觉得会是may 虽然Osborne 也很想,但是他可以再等几年。