更新, 隔壁家来通知我们说要extension厨房?

隔壁家来通知我们说要extension厨房. 那边紧挨着我们.
更新: 邻居家扩建, council 同意了。 然后他们给我们来了一封信, 内容如下
I, as building owner of (邻居地址)which adjoins your premises known as (我家地址)。 I hereby serve you with NOTICE as required by section3(1)
that after the expiration of two calendar months. From the service of of this notice, I intend to exercise the rights given to me by the Party Wall etc.Act1996, Section2,
Subsection(2)paragraphs…
By executing the works under mentioned, “single storey rear exention” and I propose to commence the works after the expiration of two months from the date of this
notice or earlier if you agree.
然后让我们签字。

有一家party wall survveyors来了一封广告信, 说邻居家挖的地基比原来的深。会对我们有影响。

现在来寻求 建议, 现在是该我们找party wall surveyor 了吗? 我们在收到他们的信之前, 收到的Party wall surveyor的广告信。 他们似乎不想出这个钱。说那些人就为了骗钱, 什么的。
我看广告信上说这个钱应该由他们出的。

更新: 原来是成龙大哥提升了我以前的帖子, 谢谢! 可否给些建议啊。 现在的情况是我们没有请party wall surveyor(当时觉得他们人还行)没想到后来就屋檐严重过界, 还理直气壮。 详见
http://bbs.powerapple.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2568319&extra=page%3D1&page=1

如果你不愿意,完全可以说 “不同意” 不过要以书面的形式对对方的要求做出回应。你的想法是council考虑批准的主要因素之一。

谢谢, 但是他们只是来通知我们一下, 说他们下周要装了。 给我的感觉好像顺便说一声, 不需要经过我们的同意似的。 所以我也不知道, 我到底是否有权利说我们不同意。 可能他们已经拿到了council 的许可, 或者他们根本没申请, 也不得而知。

如果他们和council申请了planning permission那council在考虑申请的时间肯定会通知你们征求你们的意见的,很多extension不需要planning permission,所以他们是不是申请无所谓。

但是他们要施工,必须有一个所谓"party wall agreement"的东西,就是说他们的工程不能影响到你们家的property,施工以前要做个survey,施工以后要做个survey,这样可以保证你们家不会因为邻居的工程damage了,有专门做这个事情的公司,这个事情可以邻居做也可以你们做了以后charge给邻居。不是所有人做这个事情,但这是正常情况应该做的事情。如果你们不好意思,可以找专门的公司出面。最少的要求是给你们一个书面的东西保证,他们的斾工不影响到你们的property。

多谢成龙大哥。 我们跟邻居是共用一堵墙, 一般情况下, 他们装修是不会影响到我们的, 对吗, 中间这墙应该是比较厚的吧, 不至于把我们这边打穿吧。忍不住多说一句,我们这邻居是阿叉,把房子弄的跟旅馆一样。已经有extension了, 这回再在不同方向extension, 不知道要多招多少人入住阿。不知道为什么, 里面住的人换得跟走马灯似的。为什么不长期租给固定的人呢

他在自己房间里面整你你就没有办法了。如果做extension的话要挖很深做地基,挖不好会把旁边墙挖倒的。

成龙大哥真是回复神速阿。 你说的这个做法, 我是要找一家公司吗, 找一个什么样的公司呢, 有没有推荐啊。 还是直接过去让他们书面写一下。 今天是我帮他们代收了个包裹, 结果他们来拿包裹的时候就这么提了一下。如果我们不管这件事,要是他们真把墙挖倒了,他们 就不用管了吗?,再说, 那个墙也是他们的墙啊。

这是有个法律的网站 https://www.gov.uk/party-wall-etc-act-1996-guidance
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/buildingregulations/buildingpolicyandlegislation/currentlegislation/partywallact

搜索party wall surveyor。

其实这个agreement也是保护邻居,要不然以后你们有什么问题就说是他们挖出的问题。:stuck_out_tongue:

根据 party wall act 1996, 邻居的通知也必须以书面形式表达他的要求。你收到他的通知可以有3个选择

1 同意(书面) 2 不同意 (书面)3 do nothing. 如果你选择了3 ,根据法案规定, 默认为有争议,如法案写着“after a period of 14 days from the service of your notice, the person receiving the notice has done nothing, a dispute is regarded as having arisen”

那么接下来要请surveyor来仲裁,就要掏钱了。不花钱的最好办法就是跟邻居好好商量,双方达成共识,相互退让一步。

如果邻居没给书面通知,就开始动工, 你可以打电话到当地的council进行投诉,如果邻居真的违反了party wall act,那么council接到投诉,就会强制要求邻居恢复原状。

嗯, 我其实是想多一事不如少一事,想不管这事。但是我又怕出岔子。然后他们又说,其实已经通知我们了

成龍大哥好專業, 這要死的party wall act,

我之前是也是extention kitchen, 領居也是找了專業人來, 開工前看一次, 結束後看1次, BILL 我們付,

所以你也可以這樣做, 因為要挖地基的, 為了保護你家

啊, 看来我不能听之任之不管啊, 那些专业人士叫什么?

搜索party wall surveyor

這樣領居要多花1千多鎊了, 不過我當時也付了 :frowning:

谢谢:) ,会不会到时他们不付啊?

商量解决,其实就是让他给你个保证,斾工不影响到你的property。

印度人会不管规定在garden里面乱搞extension,乱盖房子,搞的太过火可能会影响到你的房子的价值,你最好搞清楚他到底搞什么样的extension,是不是过界,就是房顶的gutter过界都不能允许。

According to the party wall act. Anyone expect the property owners can be the party wall surveyor. The cost DO NOT have to be paid by your neighbours, you have to sign the agreement to clear state that the cost of appointing a surveyor or any potential damage and repair works have to be paid by your neighbours. 请注意这里的DAMAGE 不是一下就发生的,可能会等几年再出现,比如邻居加建LOFT CONVERSION的时候放了一根钢梁在PARTY WALL上,开裂可能在2年以后发生,做EXTENSION的时候把墙建在公用的地基上了,3年后发现地基下沉之类的,你在合同里都要签好,比如说10年之内由于你邻居的改建才出现的问题修理费也要他出。 See below copied from the Party wall act 1996.

12 What if I cannot reach agreement with the Adjoining Owners on the work to be done to the party wall?
The best way of settling any point of difference is by friendly discussion with your neighbour. Agreements should always be put in writing.
If you cannot reach agreement with the Adjoining Owners, the next best thing is to agree with them on appointing what the Act calls an “Agreed Surveyor” to draw up an “Award”. The surveyor must be a person agreed between the owners to act.
Alternatively, each owner can appoint a surveyor to draw up the award together. The two appointed surveyors will select a third surveyor (who would be called in only if the two appointed surveyors cannot agree or either of the owners or either surveyor calls upon the third surveyor to make an award).
In all cases, surveyors appointed or selected under the dispute resolution procedure of the Act must consider the interests and rights of both owners and draw up an award impartially.
Their duty is to resolve matters in dispute in a fair and practical way.
Where separate surveyors are appointed by each owner, the surveyors must liaise with their appointing owners and put forward the respective owners’ preferred outcome. However, beyond that the surveyors do not act as representatives for the respective owners. They must always act consistently with the terms of the Act to reach a fair and impartial award.
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13 Who can I appoint as a surveyor in the event of a dispute?
The term “surveyor” under the Act can include any person who is not a party to the matter. This means that you can appoint almost anyone you like to act in this capacity. However, the person should not have already been engaged to supervise the building work. The surveyor should also have a good knowledge of construction and of procedures under the Act. You cannot however act for yourself.
Some people are obviously more suitable than others. You may wish to look for a qualified building professional with some experience or knowledge of party wall matters - see Part 6, Further Information, at the end of this booklet.
14 What does the surveyor do?
The surveyor (or surveyors) will settle the matter by making an “award” (also known as a “party wall award”). This is a document which:
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sets out the work that will be carried out
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says when and how the work is to be carried out (for example to limit continuous periods of time when excessively noisy work can be carried out);
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specifies any additional work required (for example necessary protection to prevent damage);
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often contains a record of the condition of the adjoining property before the work begins (so that any damage to the adjoining land or buildings can be properly attributed and made good);
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allows access for the surveyor(s) to inspect the works while they’re going on as may be necessary (to see that they are in accordance with the award).
It is a good idea to keep a copy of the award with your property deeds when the works are completed.
15 Who pays the surveyor’s fees?
The surveyor (or surveyors) will decide who pays the fees for drawing up the award and for checking that the work has been carried out in accordance with the award. Usually the Building Owner will pay all costs associated with drawing up the award if the works are solely for his benefit.
16 Is the surveyor’s award final?
The Award is final and binding unless it is rescinded or modified by a county court on appeal. Each owner has 14 days from service of the award on him to appeal to the county court against the award.
An appeal should not be undertaken lightly, and an unsuccessful appellant may incur an award of costs against him. An owner considering an appeal may well wish to seek legal advice.
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17 Who pays for the building works?
Your agreement with the Adjoining Owner, or the award in the event of a dispute, will set this out.
The general principle in the Act is that the Building Owner who initiated the work pays for it if the works are solely for his benefit. However, there are cases where the Adjoining Owner should pay part of the expense of the works. This is set out in section 11 of the Act and covers for example:
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where work to a party wall is needed because of defects or lack of repair for which the Adjoining Owner may be responsible (in full or in part).
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where an Adjoining Owner requests that additional work should be done for his benefit

或者是等他们都建好了之后,如果他们有不对的,再找电话到 council ,然后再强制他们拆掉。 :cn10:

远亲不如近邻。与人方便。将来有一天与己也方便。

更新: 邻居家扩建, council 同意了。 然后他们给我们来了一封信, 内容如下
I, as building owner of (邻居地址)which adjoins your premises known as (我家地址)。 I hereby serve you with NOTICE as required by section3(1)
that after the expiration of two calendar months. From the service of of this notice, I intend to exercise the rights given to me by the Party Wall etc.Act1996, Section2,
Subsection(2)paragraphs…
By executing the works under mentioned, “single storey rear exention” and I propose to commence the works after the expiration of two months from the date of this
notice or earlier if you agree.
然后让我们签字。

有一家party wall survveyors来了一封广告信, 说邻居家挖的地基比原来的深。会对我们有影响。

现在来寻求, 建议, 现在是该我们找party wall surveyor 了吗?