jessica11OB于2008-02-11写道:
旁边的包装上写着中国驰名商标
有说法这个其实是中国人弄出来的。。。
旁边的包装上写着中国驰名商标
有说法这个其实是中国人弄出来的。。。
我还是宁愿相信这是日本人做的
jessica11OB于2008-02-11写道:
美国和日本本来就是一丘之貉，不奇怪
Lilsunflower于2008-02-11写道:
FBI Goes After Bonsaikitten.com
Declan McCullagh Email 02.09.01 | 10:10 AM
WASHINGTON – A website devoted to squishing kittens into Mason jars is one of two things: A trenchant parody designed to provoke, or a nefarious kitty-mutilation scheme that must be stopped, and probably outlawed.
Count the FBI among the many visitors to bonsaikitten.com who are anything but amused at the descriptions of how to use muscle relaxant, feeding tubes and Klein bottles to shape a perfect Bonsai Cat.
FBI agents in the Boston field office have launched an investigation into the site. They also have served MIT with a grand jury subpoena asking for “any and all subscriber information” about the site, which was initially hosted in a campus dormitory but has since moved to a commercial provider.
MIT said in a letter to bonsaikitten.com’s pseudonymous webmaster, a graduate student using the alias Dr. Michael Wong Chang, that it will wait until Sunday to turn over records that would identify him by name.
“I was surprised,” Chang said. “I really thought that the FBI had better things to do. That’s your tax dollars at work.”
Bonsaikitten.com is, of course, a joke devised by prankster MIT students – who else would talk about “rectilinear kittens?” – to provoke owners of kittens, an adorably fuzzy topic that’s usually beyond parody.
Bonsaikitten.com offers to sell visitors a custom-shaped kitten – the site says “typical wait time for a fully shaped Bonsai Kitten is 3 to 4 months” – but the site does not list prices or a mailing address for where to send money orders. It does, however, occasionally receive requests for more information.
It also has sparked tens of thousands of hate-mail messages, anti-Bonsai Kitten groups on Yahoo, and even a blistering denunciation from the venerable Humane Society of the United States.
For the site’s fans, watching e-mail nastygrams arrive has become a kind of spectator sport: There’s even a mailing list that lets bonsaikitten.com aficionados view any mail sent to the site’s webmaster. A typical message: “This site is horrible! You should go in a mental hospital! You son of a bitch! I’ll do my best to shut down this site and your disgusting hobby!”
A gun-toting investigator from the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals reportedly stopped by campus and quizzed MIT network administrators about the intent of the site. Under state law, MSPCA investigators are deputized as “special state police officers” with investigation and arrest abilities.
The combined efforts of animal rights proponents, including such ardent activists as the closed-subscription “meowmies” group, seem to have prompted the FBI to launch its investigation.
“Why are they doing this?” asks Harvey Silverglate, a prominent Boston criminal defense attorney. “I think the answer is that political correctness has infected the FBI.”
“The kind of fanatical end of the spectrum animal protection movement has affected them,” says Silverglate, a partner at Silverglate and Good. “They want to be the good guys. They massively run rampant over Americans’ liberties but they want to be seen as nice fuzzy guys who want to protect kittens.”
Silverglate predicts that when the FBI realizes bonsaikitten.com is not serious, the bureau will quietly abandon its investigation.
Ellen Kearns, an FBI agent in the bureau’s Lakeville, Massachusetts office who is involved in the investigation, could not be reached for comment.
Nadine Pellegrini, the assistant U.S. Attorney who signed the subpoena, refused to discuss the investigation. “I’m making no comment,” Pellegrini said.
The subpoena does not discuss what law the bonsaikitten.com operators allegedly violated. But Pellegrini hinted that it was based on a relatively recent federal statute: “I would assume there’s a case, if there’s a law, but I’m not making any comment.”
In December 1999, President Clinton signed a law that makes it a federal felony to possess “a depiction of animal cruelty” with the intent to distribute across state lines – such as on the Internet. During a floor debate, Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.) claimed that “sick criminals are taking advantage of the loopholes in the local law and the lack of federal law on animal cruelty videos.”
The law, which observers at the time said probably violated the First Amendment, only applies to images, videos, and sound recordings that are distributed “for commercial gain” – and bonsaikitten.com’s tongue-in-cheek descriptions of mail-order cats in bottles appears to have given the FBI sufficient justification for an investigation.
The national Humane Society, based in Washington, applauded the FBI’s efforts.
“If the FBI is looking into this, that’s great,” said spokeswoman Karen Allanach. "Anything to discourage animal cruelty would be very helpful.
Allanach said she’s not sure if the site is a parody – and even if it isn’t, it should be taken offline because it could encourage people to experiment on their own household pets.
“It’s totally promoting animal cruelty,” Allanach said. “They consider it a sick joke. People will take it seriously. Animal cruelty is not funny. Animal torture is not funny. We would like bonsaikitten.com to be removed permanently.”
When asked whether someone has the First Amendment right to advocate for animal cruelty, Allanach replied: “That’s a great question. That’s at the heart of a lot of debate.”
Jered Floyd, a recent MIT graduate, says animal rights activists – who have successfully pressured hosting services to ban bonsaikitten.com until rotten.com offered it server space – don’t have a sense of humor.
“The First Amendment protects all speech, no matter how offensive some people may find it,” Floyd says. “The site is clearly a humorous endeavor. The fact that a number of people seem to have very little sense of humor isn’t relevant.”
A letter dated Feb. 1 from MIT lawyer Jeff Swope says that federal law requires the university to notify students when it receives subpoenas for information about them. It says that “pursuant to that legal process, MIT will produce such information, no earlier than Feb. 11, 2001.”
This article is saying : Bonsai cat is a joke. It is fake. It is an urban legend. It does not exist.
IS ANYBODY EVEN READING IT?????? THIS IS FAKE IT IS FAKE
[ 编辑 Lilsunflower 在 08-02-11 16:55 ]
lilyluvx于2008-02-11写道:
jessica11OB于2008-02-11写道:
旁边的包装上写着中国驰名商标
有说法这个其实是中国人弄出来的。。。
那个瓜子在英国的中国超市，和日本的中国超市都能买到。说是中国人做的，是看照片这么说的。但是最早揭发这个事件的是从日本的网站上揭发的。话说回来，就算中国人做过，日本人也做过，美国人做过，变态的人做过，都没什么区别。日本不顾国际反对声扑杀鲸鱼，做个小猫对他们来说不是更轻而易举
Lilsunflower于2008-02-11写道:
jessica11OB于2008-02-11写道:
美国和日本本来就是一丘之貉，不奇怪
Lilsunflower于2008-02-11写道:
FBI Goes After Bonsaikitten.com
Declan McCullagh Email 02.09.01 | 10:10 AM
WASHINGTON – A website devoted to squishing kittens into Mason jars is one of two things: A trenchant parody designed to provoke, or a nefarious kitty-mutilation scheme that must be stopped, and probably outlawed.
Count the FBI among the many visitors to bonsaikitten.com who are anything but amused at the descriptions of how to use muscle relaxant, feeding tubes and Klein bottles to shape a perfect Bonsai Cat.
FBI agents in the Boston field office have launched an investigation into the site. They also have served MIT with a grand jury subpoena asking for “any and all subscriber information” about the site, which was initially hosted in a campus dormitory but has since moved to a commercial provider.
MIT said in a letter to bonsaikitten.com’s pseudonymous webmaster, a graduate student using the alias Dr. Michael Wong Chang, that it will wait until Sunday to turn over records that would identify him by name.
“I was surprised,” Chang said. “I really thought that the FBI had better things to do. That’s your tax dollars at work.”
Bonsaikitten.com is, of course, a joke devised by prankster MIT students – who else would talk about “rectilinear kittens?” – to provoke owners of kittens, an adorably fuzzy topic that’s usually beyond parody.
Bonsaikitten.com offers to sell visitors a custom-shaped kitten – the site says “typical wait time for a fully shaped Bonsai Kitten is 3 to 4 months” – but the site does not list prices or a mailing address for where to send money orders. It does, however, occasionally receive requests for more information.
It also has sparked tens of thousands of hate-mail messages, anti-Bonsai Kitten groups on Yahoo, and even a blistering denunciation from the venerable Humane Society of the United States.
For the site’s fans, watching e-mail nastygrams arrive has become a kind of spectator sport: There’s even a mailing list that lets bonsaikitten.com aficionados view any mail sent to the site’s webmaster. A typical message: “This site is horrible! You should go in a mental hospital! You son of a bitch! I’ll do my best to shut down this site and your disgusting hobby!”
A gun-toting investigator from the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals reportedly stopped by campus and quizzed MIT network administrators about the intent of the site. Under state law, MSPCA investigators are deputized as “special state police officers” with investigation and arrest abilities.
The combined efforts of animal rights proponents, including such ardent activists as the closed-subscription “meowmies” group, seem to have prompted the FBI to launch its investigation.
“Why are they doing this?” asks Harvey Silverglate, a prominent Boston criminal defense attorney. “I think the answer is that political correctness has infected the FBI.”
“The kind of fanatical end of the spectrum animal protection movement has affected them,” says Silverglate, a partner at Silverglate and Good. “They want to be the good guys. They massively run rampant over Americans’ liberties but they want to be seen as nice fuzzy guys who want to protect kittens.”
Silverglate predicts that when the FBI realizes bonsaikitten.com is not serious, the bureau will quietly abandon its investigation.
Ellen Kearns, an FBI agent in the bureau’s Lakeville, Massachusetts office who is involved in the investigation, could not be reached for comment.
Nadine Pellegrini, the assistant U.S. Attorney who signed the subpoena, refused to discuss the investigation. “I’m making no comment,” Pellegrini said.
The subpoena does not discuss what law the bonsaikitten.com operators allegedly violated. But Pellegrini hinted that it was based on a relatively recent federal statute: “I would assume there’s a case, if there’s a law, but I’m not making any comment.”
In December 1999, President Clinton signed a law that makes it a federal felony to possess “a depiction of animal cruelty” with the intent to distribute across state lines – such as on the Internet. During a floor debate, Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.) claimed that “sick criminals are taking advantage of the loopholes in the local law and the lack of federal law on animal cruelty videos.”
The law, which observers at the time said probably violated the First Amendment, only applies to images, videos, and sound recordings that are distributed “for commercial gain” – and bonsaikitten.com’s tongue-in-cheek descriptions of mail-order cats in bottles appears to have given the FBI sufficient justification for an investigation.
The national Humane Society, based in Washington, applauded the FBI’s efforts.
“If the FBI is looking into this, that’s great,” said spokeswoman Karen Allanach. "Anything to discourage animal cruelty would be very helpful.
Allanach said she’s not sure if the site is a parody – and even if it isn’t, it should be taken offline because it could encourage people to experiment on their own household pets.
“It’s totally promoting animal cruelty,” Allanach said. “They consider it a sick joke. People will take it seriously. Animal cruelty is not funny. Animal torture is not funny. We would like bonsaikitten.com to be removed permanently.”
When asked whether someone has the First Amendment right to advocate for animal cruelty, Allanach replied: “That’s a great question. That’s at the heart of a lot of debate.”
Jered Floyd, a recent MIT graduate, says animal rights activists – who have successfully pressured hosting services to ban bonsaikitten.com until rotten.com offered it server space – don’t have a sense of humor.
“The First Amendment protects all speech, no matter how offensive some people may find it,” Floyd says. “The site is clearly a humorous endeavor. The fact that a number of people seem to have very little sense of humor isn’t relevant.”
A letter dated Feb. 1 from MIT lawyer Jeff Swope says that federal law requires the university to notify students when it receives subpoenas for information about them. It says that “pursuant to that legal process, MIT will produce such information, no earlier than Feb. 11, 2001.”
This article is saying : Bonsai cat is a joke. It is fake. It is an urban legend. It does not exist.
我的意思是，官方说法我不信，你看我贴的照片，有英文在瓶子上的，我觉得很假。但是给猫猫注射和瓶子里的猫猫，不是ps来的。美国人不承认罢了。
jessica11OB于2008-02-11写道:
我的意思是，官方说法我不信，你看我贴的照片，有英文在瓶子上的，我觉得很假。但是给猫猫注射和瓶子里的猫猫，不是ps来的。美国人不承认罢了。
Lilsunflower于2008-02-11写道:
jessica11OB于2008-02-11写道:
美国和日本本来就是一丘之貉，不奇怪
Lilsunflower于2008-02-11写道:
FBI Goes After Bonsaikitten.com
Declan McCullagh Email 02.09.01 | 10:10 AM
WASHINGTON – A website devoted to squishing kittens into Mason jars is one of two things: A trenchant parody designed to provoke, or a nefarious kitty-mutilation scheme that must be stopped, and probably outlawed.
Count the FBI among the many visitors to bonsaikitten.com who are anything but amused at the descriptions of how to use muscle relaxant, feeding tubes and Klein bottles to shape a perfect Bonsai Cat.
FBI agents in the Boston field office have launched an investigation into the site. They also have served MIT with a grand jury subpoena asking for “any and all subscriber information” about the site, which was initially hosted in a campus dormitory but has since moved to a commercial provider.
MIT said in a letter to bonsaikitten.com’s pseudonymous webmaster, a graduate student using the alias Dr. Michael Wong Chang, that it will wait until Sunday to turn over records that would identify him by name.
“I was surprised,” Chang said. “I really thought that the FBI had better things to do. That’s your tax dollars at work.”
Bonsaikitten.com is, of course, a joke devised by prankster MIT students – who else would talk about “rectilinear kittens?” – to provoke owners of kittens, an adorably fuzzy topic that’s usually beyond parody.
Bonsaikitten.com offers to sell visitors a custom-shaped kitten – the site says “typical wait time for a fully shaped Bonsai Kitten is 3 to 4 months” – but the site does not list prices or a mailing address for where to send money orders. It does, however, occasionally receive requests for more information.
It also has sparked tens of thousands of hate-mail messages, anti-Bonsai Kitten groups on Yahoo, and even a blistering denunciation from the venerable Humane Society of the United States.
For the site’s fans, watching e-mail nastygrams arrive has become a kind of spectator sport: There’s even a mailing list that lets bonsaikitten.com aficionados view any mail sent to the site’s webmaster. A typical message: “This site is horrible! You should go in a mental hospital! You son of a bitch! I’ll do my best to shut down this site and your disgusting hobby!”
A gun-toting investigator from the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals reportedly stopped by campus and quizzed MIT network administrators about the intent of the site. Under state law, MSPCA investigators are deputized as “special state police officers” with investigation and arrest abilities.
The combined efforts of animal rights proponents, including such ardent activists as the closed-subscription “meowmies” group, seem to have prompted the FBI to launch its investigation.
“Why are they doing this?” asks Harvey Silverglate, a prominent Boston criminal defense attorney. “I think the answer is that political correctness has infected the FBI.”
“The kind of fanatical end of the spectrum animal protection movement has affected them,” says Silverglate, a partner at Silverglate and Good. “They want to be the good guys. They massively run rampant over Americans’ liberties but they want to be seen as nice fuzzy guys who want to protect kittens.”
Silverglate predicts that when the FBI realizes bonsaikitten.com is not serious, the bureau will quietly abandon its investigation.
Ellen Kearns, an FBI agent in the bureau’s Lakeville, Massachusetts office who is involved in the investigation, could not be reached for comment.
Nadine Pellegrini, the assistant U.S. Attorney who signed the subpoena, refused to discuss the investigation. “I’m making no comment,” Pellegrini said.
The subpoena does not discuss what law the bonsaikitten.com operators allegedly violated. But Pellegrini hinted that it was based on a relatively recent federal statute: “I would assume there’s a case, if there’s a law, but I’m not making any comment.”
In December 1999, President Clinton signed a law that makes it a federal felony to possess “a depiction of animal cruelty” with the intent to distribute across state lines – such as on the Internet. During a floor debate, Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.) claimed that “sick criminals are taking advantage of the loopholes in the local law and the lack of federal law on animal cruelty videos.”
The law, which observers at the time said probably violated the First Amendment, only applies to images, videos, and sound recordings that are distributed “for commercial gain” – and bonsaikitten.com’s tongue-in-cheek descriptions of mail-order cats in bottles appears to have given the FBI sufficient justification for an investigation.
The national Humane Society, based in Washington, applauded the FBI’s efforts.
“If the FBI is looking into this, that’s great,” said spokeswoman Karen Allanach. "Anything to discourage animal cruelty would be very helpful.
Allanach said she’s not sure if the site is a parody – and even if it isn’t, it should be taken offline because it could encourage people to experiment on their own household pets.
“It’s totally promoting animal cruelty,” Allanach said. “They consider it a sick joke. People will take it seriously. Animal cruelty is not funny. Animal torture is not funny. We would like bonsaikitten.com to be removed permanently.”
When asked whether someone has the First Amendment right to advocate for animal cruelty, Allanach replied: “That’s a great question. That’s at the heart of a lot of debate.”
Jered Floyd, a recent MIT graduate, says animal rights activists – who have successfully pressured hosting services to ban bonsaikitten.com until rotten.com offered it server space – don’t have a sense of humor.
“The First Amendment protects all speech, no matter how offensive some people may find it,” Floyd says. “The site is clearly a humorous endeavor. The fact that a number of people seem to have very little sense of humor isn’t relevant.”
A letter dated Feb. 1 from MIT lawyer Jeff Swope says that federal law requires the university to notify students when it receives subpoenas for information about them. It says that “pursuant to that legal process, MIT will produce such information, no earlier than Feb. 11, 2001.”
This article is saying : Bonsai cat is a joke. It is fake. It is an urban legend. It does not exist.
同意！！！！
美国和日本本来就是一国的！
变态！！
那帮人下辈子投胎去做盆景猫吧！！！
:cn05: :cn05:
正要去睡觉～ 吓到我了．
不管是什么人做的！都不得好死！ 
I’ve nothing to say if you gals want to believe in an urban legend. I just think this argument is worthless since it is a very old urban legend which has been declared as fake yrs ago
Lilsunflower于2008-02-11写道:
mm觉得美国的网站盆景猫是假的是有可能的，但是我觉得日本流传出来的哪些照片并不像假的，而且也没有证实日本人做的是假的。所有的话题都围绕在是中国人做的还是日本人做的。其实意义也不大。
晕阿，很久以前的事了，怎么又拿出来啦。
最早这些图片全是从美国的一个网站上来的。都是ps的，这件事开始在国外的影响还挺大的，当时诬陷的是中国，后来发现这些全是从美国的一个叫cat in can的网站粘贴的，是别人用电脑做出来的，也就不寥寥之。
怎么现在又在诬蔑日本阿。。。。
RCMpianist于2008-02-11写道:
晕阿，很久以前的事了，怎么又拿出来啦。
最早这些图片全是从美国的一个网站上来的。都是ps的，这件事开始在国外的影响还挺大的，当时诬陷的是中国，后来发现这些全是从美国的一个叫cat in can的网站粘贴的，是别人用电脑做出来的，也就不寥寥之。
怎么现在又在诬蔑日本阿。。。。
ps貌似还没那么强大，我刚才查了一下，那个mm贴的fbi的调查，最后是找不到证据不了了知了。有说是污蔑日本的，还有说是污蔑中国的，什么说法都有。说中国强奸小猫了，也没有确切的证据有dna报告说是被强奸了。我见过小孩子把青蛙装进小药瓶里的，所以，我觉得如果人类真的变态到这种地步，这种事也不是不可能，我也只是转帖来的。到底是谁做的，日本做没做过，我不好说，只是转载一个文章而已。大家看看就好。日本的变态，就算我不说，哎，大家也知道，我觉得既然有说法说不是日本做的，那我还是改改这个帖子，免得造成不必要的误会
怎么这样儿啊
这是拿来卖的还是拍这种照片上来哗众取宠~?
我在日本从来没见过这种东西… 
estheryang于2008-02-11写道:
这是拿来卖的还是拍这种照片上来哗众取宠~?
我在日本从来没见过这种东西…
这是网上的，有说法说是变态的游戏，不是拿来卖的。
其实，我觉得说到底，看照片，如果真的是麻省理工学生的恶作剧，为什么有张照片上会有中国瓜子呢？那个麻省理工学生的理由也牵强的可怜。不调查他他不说是为了抗议人类，调查他之后才说。照片也不像是ps的，我自己就玩ps，我知道ps没有那么彪悍可以做出这样的照片，不过，就算为了拍照片而把猫猫装在瓶子里拍照，也不是正常人做的出来的。照片既然存在，就有他存在的意义。是变态也好，是警告也好。希望大家不要一笑了之，如果ps可以做到这么多，我希望我可以有一天ps出来一个“盆景人” 
变态。有意思么。
monophobia于2008-02-11写道:
变态。有意思么。
我觉得变态的程度不止于此，如果能装人，我相信会有变态连人都弄的。
放家里他不觉得害怕吗
好恐怖 
主贴的图是N年前的了，这就不说了哈
只讨论第二个和第三个，大家，好好看看比例，那个奶瓶有多大。。。
第三个那就是一碗。。。。
还有，LZ也太激动了吧，分类都忘了。
锁了。