請高人指點:關於讀博士不能超過8年這個規定的 ho連接

ho的tier 4 student 申請的網頁越讀越蒙,只能再次請教了,請高人們不要厭煩。

新增加的讀書年份限制里的8年時間限制應該做以下哪種理解:(1)以博士offer申請tier 4簽證的不能以讀博士的理由得到超過8年的簽證;還是說 (2)從本科,碩士到博士的學習時間總共不能超過8年? 可否給出ho規定的連接,我苦搜了一天沒有找到。

我之前在英國讀本科+碩士用了6年的時間,之後又跟隨丈夫以dependent身分在英國2年,想回國拿博士的offer申請tier 4 visa。 請問符合規定麽?多謝!

ho 规矩不知道

但是学校好像也有要求的,4年还是5年,具体看你的学校?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/sop4.pdf

page 4

不是page 4,而是page 16,更详细些。
Students undertaking a PhD will not be subject to the time limit, but if they have eight or more
years leave as a student or in Tier 4 (General) on completion of their PhD they will not be able to
apply for further leave in Tier 4 (General).

Students who have already eight or more years leave as a student or in Tier 4 (General) from April 2012
will be able to complete their course, but not apply for further leave in Tier 4 (General) when that expires.

你說的這個是學校的規定,不能超過5年。:)

多謝cao大再次幫助。

看到出處了!謝謝。

那就是說加上讀博士的visa,整個tier 4 visa的紀錄最多是8年?!我已經用了6年了,只有2年剩下了,但是phd肯定是至少3年。完蛋了。這回可咂整。。。

用dependent的身份念吧,如果可以的话,时间不够用的话,看看能不能先用dependent的身份念,然后再用t4签。这个最好先和uni商量好了。
这一招就是ho拿出来用作釜底抽薪的,因为10年不能取消,所以只能围魏救赵。

我看到page4 就停了,你能看到page 16。。。。

哪里,发现你说的page 4讲的是简介,就一目十行的往下拉,然后就在那里了。。。。:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

這果然是一個法子,先讀一年多然後再續。。。我立馬去找學校諮詢去。多謝提點!抱拳!

对于PhD是不能超过8年,和其他的不算在一起吧?我也不确定,等解答

看完第16页,我自己的看法是:申请读博士或者在读博士不受任何时间的限制。但是如果等你读完博士学位,你的total的学生身份时间超过8年的话,那么你就不能再读别的课程了,UKBA不会再给你签T4(G)。

蒙了。。。

我一开始和你理解的一致,但是看了john给找的这段:Students undertaking a PhD will not be subject to the time limit, but if they have eight or more
years leave as a student or in Tier 4 (General) on completion of their PhD they will not be able to
apply for further leave in Tier 4 (General) 我就又理解成读完phd也不能超过8年限制。。。

现在看了你的回复,又研究了一遍语法,貌似真是你说的这种,就是读完phd后tier 4年限大于等于8年,就不能再继续用tier 4身份继续学习了,但是读phd不受年限限制。。。

天啊。。。到底该做何理解。

我又搜了一些关于tier 4 time limit 的信息找到以下连接,咱们可以一起研究下:
http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/internationalstudents/immigration/tierfour/timelimit.html
里面有这样一段话:
To help interpret these new rules below are some Cambridge study scenarios that seem achievable within this new time limit.

Studying Tripos, having never held a student visa
Studying an Integrated Masters, having never held a student visa
Studying one or two year Masters, having never held a student visa
Studying a PhD/EngD, having never held a student visa
Studying at Cambridge after completing a course below degree level in the UK (e.g. A levels, HNC, HND, CertHE, DipHE, Foundation Degrees (eg, FdA, FdSc))
Studying a three-year Tripos, after studying at degree level and above for less than two years on a student visa
Progressing to a one-year Masters, after completing a three year undergraduate course (on time), on a student visa
Progressing to a two-year Masters, after completing a three year undergraduate course (on time), on a student visa
Progressing to a one-year Masters, after completing a four year undergraduate course (on time), on a student visa
Progressing to a two-year Masters, after completing a four year undergraduate course (on time), on a student visa
Progressing to PhD/EngD irrespective of time already spent on a student visa
Progressing to a second one-year Masters, if time on student visa is less than four years

倒数第2句划线的是不是可以印证你的理解是正确的呢?

我个人觉得是我们两个都愿意相信的那种解释。下面的文字,红字是confirm我们的想法,highlight的是我们担心的8年的limit,但好像只是说完成PhD之后,如果还想读别的course才需要担心。

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_sheets/immigration_uk.php#limit_under18

Some time limits were introduced on 6 April 2012 for degree level study. Any new Tier 4 application must lead to you spending no more than five years on courses at degree level. All time you have spent in the UK under Tier 4 (or as a pre-Tier 4 student) counts towards the 5 years, except for the short extra time you are given before the course (maximum ont month) and after a course (maximum four months).

There are some exceptions to the 5-year cap:

if you have successfully completed a UK degree course which was at least four years long, and your Tier 4 application is to study a Master’s degree at a higher education institution (recognised body or institution in receipt of public funding), the limit is six years.
if your Tier 4 application is to study a PhD at a higher education institution, there is no limit while you are studying the PhD.
if you have already completed a PhD, any new Tier 4 application is subject to an 8-year limit (including courses below degree level).
courses in architecture, medicine, dentistry, veterinary medicine and science, or music at a conservatoire, are exempt from the limit.
if you have completed a UK degree, and your current Tier 4 application is to study certain legal qualifications (CPE, GDL/LPC or BPTC), the legal qualification is exempt from the limit

The UK Border Agency will not grant further leave to someone whose current Tier 4 application means they will exceed these limits, unless there are “compelling and compassionate circumstances”, such as injury or disability.

哦耶!感觉到一线曙光。

我要不要去做小白鼠,回国递签试验下呢?如果我现在回去申请tier 4,万一不成功,不知道现在还有的1年半dependent visa会不会受影响。

你们的理解是正确的。

移民局目前的规定是,本科以下,包括语言,不能签学生签超过3年;
本科以上阶段,除了(1) Architecture; (2) Medicine; (3) Dentistry; (4) Law, where the applicant has completed a course at degree level in the UK and is progressing to: a. the Common Professional Examination; b. the Graduate Diploma in Law and Legal Practice Course; or c. the Bar Professional Training Course. (5) Veterinary Medicine & Science; or (6) Music at a music college that is a member of Conservatoires UK (CUK).以及PHD外,不能签学生签超过5年。
PHD课程所获得的学生签证长度不受任何时限的限制,不过移民局规定,一旦完成了PHD的课程,(注意,是课程,而不是最终获得PHD学位),再要申请学生签证的话,所能获得的签证的总长度,(要计算之前所有等级课程所获得的学生签证时长)不能超过8年。也就是说,一旦完成PHD课程时已经在英国持有学生签证超过8年的,不能再给予学生签证。

这样很悲催啊。PHD课程一般就是3年,一旦3年毕不了业,就没机会毕业了,因为没签证了。

不过如果学校担保,延长课程的长度,理论上是可以继续获得学生签证到毕业的。既然读PHD了,就努力读下来吧。

您提醒的这个“phd课程的结束”是否可以理解成提交完phd thesis完成答辩?也就是一般给phd的3年visa长度?

还想请教,我这个情况,如果现在回去中国申请phd的tier 4 visa,万一不成功,会不会对现在我持有的 tier 4 student dependent签证造成影响?我还能用现在的签证回来不?