T1(G)续签及ILR时的5年连续居住

最近4月6日更新了申请永居所要求的5年连续居住的要求:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/modernised/cross-cut/ilr-calculating-continuous/ilr-calculating-continuous.pdf?view=Binary

what do they know网站好像是个官方的信息披露性质的网站:(如果不对,请版主指正)
2013年2月21日,3月5日,及3月27日共三次回复:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ilr_calculating_continuous_perio_2

阿叉论坛immigrationboards:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=129207

5年连续居住的文件第19页及第20页:
No more than 180 whole days absence are allowed in any of the five, two, three or four consecutive 12 month periods, preceding the date of the application for indefinite leave to remain (ILR).

Absences must be connected to the applicant’s sponsored or permitted employment, or the permitted economic activity being carried out in the UK, for example, business trips or short secondments. This also includes, if appropriate, any paid annual leave. Evidence in the form of a letter from the employer setting out the reasons for the absences, including annual leave, must be provided. Tier 1 (General) applicants who are self-employed or in business must provide a letter of explanation of their business-related absences.
(其实只有最后一句说自雇的也需要出证明才是这次修改新增加的,其它的都是和2012年12月12日那版一模一样的。去年的版本也是要求出请假证明的)

但在第26页又有补充:
The continuous period is maintained if:
 the applicant leaves the UK with valid leave and re-enters the UK whilst that leave remains valid, provided the absence(s) do not exceed 180 days in a relevant 12 month period.
 the applicant’s leave expires for 28 days or less whilst outside the UK and the applicant returns with fresh entry clearance.

在第27页的小补充:
Absences in excess of 180 days in any 12 month period for employment or economic activity reasons are not considered exceptional.

我觉得UKBA这规定写得不是特别清晰,两种理解都可以:
第一种理解:
这是不是意味着,对于T1(G)来说,周末离开UK渡个假,也算break了,也得重新算了?连度假都不行,这不让人抓狂了吗?
(因为第20页写的absence MUST be connected to work xx)

第二种理解:
按照老规矩,只要总共离开UK时间不超过180天,不管什么原则,也是符合连续5年居住的要求的?
也就是说:如果离境超过180天,但有些是因为工作离境的。把由于工作原因导致的离境除去(不计算)外,只要不超过180天就可以了?
(因为第26页又写了只要不超过180天就可以)

我觉得第20页写的离境必须与工作相关,与第26页写的只要不超过180天就行,这2点本身是矛盾的。
也就是说,case worker无论按哪一点来,申请者都没有话好说的!

我不是特别明白,这什么这次2013年4月6日公布新的修改后,大家都觉得周末离开UK渡假也算absence呢?
http://bbs.powerapple.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1200458&extra=page%3D13%26filter%3Dauthor%26orderby%3Ddateline&page=1
因为我对比了一下,这次的说法和2012年12月的没有变动啊!
大家为什么不在2012年12月的时候就这样想呢?

我刚看到了在whatdotheyknow里面这么一句,不过应该是UKBA的官员回答别人的邮件里说,算是半官方性质的吧:
“Absences due to personal reasons are not related to work or business, therefore any time spent outside of the UK for personal reasons would break continuity, regardless of whether or not the applicant was still employed in the UK”

在immigration rule 245CD-SD Specified documents (b)
(b) For periods where the applicant was self-employed or in business in the UK, or looking for work or setting up in business in the UK, a personal letter from the applicant detailing the purpose and period of absences in relation to those activities
Looking for work时如果absence也需要出证明的话(这个只能是自己给自己开了),而且跟自雇的写在同一段落里面,不就是应该也可以豁免了吗?如果looking for work里出去度假不算absence,而工作时周末去度个假却算absence,这不是让人抓疯了吗?
UKBA弄了不合理的东西出来,真是漏洞百出,就好像说了一个谎言,要用更多的谎言来圆一样!

第8页:
The Secretary of State considers the granting of ILR in the UK to be a privilege and the continuous period requirement is the minimum amount of time which a migrant must spend in employment or being economically active in the UK before being eligible to qualify for ILR.
这句话的意思是不是说:算5年的时候,必须5年都在工作呢?中间没有工作,但人在UK也不行呢?
没有说什么是being economically active呢,找工作算不算economically active呢?以下UKBA的回答很模糊啊:
Qb. What is considered to be economically active in the UK?
2月21日回复:
Answer: Employment or self employment providing the person with a taxable income
3月5日回复:
Ab. The Tier 1 (General) category allowed highly skilled people to look for work or self-employment opportunities in the UK

根据最新的immigration rule, 申请ILR的时候,必须5年都在工作,
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/part6a/
the applicant must have been employed in the UK continuously throughout the five years, under the terms of their Certificate of Sponsorship, work permit or in the employment for which they were given leave to enter or remain
我不知道这个是这次改的呢,还是2012年12月就已经改了呢?
那么中间换工作产生的break也不行了?就算一天也不行?
就算这5年在英国,但换工作时有break就不行,记得若干时间前,这句话应该是没有的,这样改变条例,合不合规呢?
不知道什么情况下可以申请judicial review?

不知道现在T1(G)续签是不是还只是看最后12个月的工资,中间不工作也是可以的,还是必须都工作,中间最多不超过若干天(如60天)。
还有,就是现在T1(G)是可以无限次续下去的?直到符合申请ILR的条件为止?
这样下一次续签还行不行啊,将来申请ILR还可以不?
当然,LZ指的都是目前最新的法例,将来还是随时有可能变动的,UKBA这样搞,真让人睡不好觉啊!

关于不算break的:(在第24页)
Breaks in the period of lawful residence may only be disregarded in the following circumstances:
 applications made on or after 9 July 2012, where the application for ILR is made no more than 28 days after the expiry of the applicant’s previous leave
 any periods disregarded in granting leave to remain on or after 1 October where they occur during the qualifying period for ILR.

第2点,指的是什么呢?为什么指on or after 1 October,却又没有指具体哪一年,应该不是什么新法规颁布所引起的。那么10月1日是什么特别的关键(转折)日吗

同迷惑,但现在暂时看来是第二种解释。希望有高人来解惑。

是啊,
你知道whatdotheyknow这个网站是官方性质的吗?
因为UKBA官员在whatdotheyknow里面写得很清楚,
“Absences due to personal reasons are not related to work or business, therefore any time spent outside of the UK for personal reasons would break continuity, regardless of whether or not the applicant was still employed in the UK”
也不知道这有多真,
虽然从情理上看,应该是第二种理解合理一些,因为以前也是这样操作实施的。
但从UKBA收紧签证的方向来看,以及上面的UKBA官员的解读和回复,真的按第一种理解也不是一点没有可能,
而咱们也没办法,只能说影响一大片,及吃了哑巴亏!

你知道如果中间工作有断,但人在英国,这样满5年可以申请ILR吗?
因为根据最新的immigration rule Part6a, 申请ILR的时候,必须5年都在工作,我记得以前没有这句话的:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/part6a/
the applicant must have been employed in the UK continuously throughout the five years, under the terms of their Certificate of Sponsorship, work permit or in the employment for which they were given leave to enter or remain

会影响98%的人吧。所以我觉得执行起来很难。