朋友的事

楼主,你好!不要急,不难看出你就是那位英国老婆。聘用靠谱点的律师,走人权,添加人权的砝码,试试怀上探监时。就算刑满被遣,有了下一代,想把他办回来,应该不会比坐牢难到哪里。

:L 哪壶不开提哪壶 人家都不愿意说出来是不是自己 。。。。。:funk: :shutup: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

生命诚可贵,爱情价更高。若为自由故,二者皆可抛。
都失去自由了,谈别的有什么用的。
想办法回国吧

超速真的会影响永居的申请吗?

一年坐一半,就是6个月,LZ说已经呆了两个月,就剩4个月了。算术没错吧?

{:5_129:}

看来看去,等于LZ和你丈夫就靠经济犯罪在这里生存,还挺适应英国的生活,我们大家要帮你们出主意?、、、、、、,也不知道我们是不是你们曾经赚钱的对象????
我要是律师就好了,你这个案子我接了,能赚钱,对你们来说也没有损失,取之于民用之于民。

我pm你了 麻烦抽空看一下 谢谢啦~

希望不是你说的这样。。。

It is a criminal offence, in that it is a breach of the law, but is classified as a misdemeanour rather than a crime. So basically, No court,NO conviction then No Criminal Record!

Lot of peoples are concerning a conviction or criminal record will prevent them from getting settlement, which is not true in the most of cases. The truth is when you apply Settlement, UKBA is seeking any record of you that you have any unspent conviction NOT the ones which spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974.

I can’t remember in which post I replied that what the difference between spent conviction and unspent conviction is. Therefore, I explain it once again.

Difference Between Spent and Unspent Convictions

Someone who was convicted of a criminal offense and given a prison sentence of not more than two and a-half years is eligible to enter a “rehabilitation period” that begins from the date of the conviction. The duration of the period depends on the sentence given by the court. Once this period is ended and all penalties–like jail sentences, fines or probation–have been complied with, the conviction becomes “spent” and the offender’s record is wiped clean. Jail sentences of more than two and a-half years are not eligible for the rehabilitation period. These types of offenses, known as unspent convictions, are never removed from the offender’s criminal record.

Let’s have a look on the SET forms. For an instance SET M form : In Note 4 CLEARLY stated that you do NOT have to disclose a spent conviction.

我觉得这位分析的相当透彻了。

个人观点,如果同意遣返,估计回不来了。

哗,好详细,谢谢。不过上周交表了,也如实交待了,其实也就那么一次。

可是都结婚了!!!还是找律师看看吧~~~

学习一下

…我不是他老婆阿…如果我真的是当事人,估计都不敢上来问了…他老婆是英国人,不上苹果的…

是两年…实际一年,所以不短…这才是他纠结的地方…

谢谢朋友你的指点…看来终于等到专业的意见了.我想问如果我朋友签了遣返回国,那么回到中国后他还可以申请和他老婆团聚吗?还是很困难的?一般多久?(我想这是他真正想要问的问题)
我知道他犯的只是一般的金融案,所以应该不算harm public interest,有机会吗?
谢谢!!

我见过的cases, 没有人愿意回国的,自愿回国之前都会要你朋友签一份协议,协议里面就有一项十年内不得返回英国,人生有几个十年,估计十年后你朋友和老婆分开了婚姻也不会last. 要是留下来spend conviction, 通过人权程序就一定会拿到居英权(其实HO也知道通过人权司法复核胜算不高,也不会特别刁难的)。 即使是恐怖分子,HO也拿他没有办法,这个就是human right act 的头疼之处,所以政府一直都想把这个act 改掉,可惜近期是没有可能的。

所以现在关键还是看你朋友和他老婆的意思,要是不想受牢狱,那就回国,不过也别指望近期内能以任何理由回英国或者去其他国家。 要是想留下来,那就先服刑,之后通过正规渠道证明婚姻的真似有效性并满足其他基本留英条件从而获得居留。

明显是理解错误,Unspent 不是 Cannot become Spent。

想太多了,一看就是刷卡或冒名申请账户骗钱这类乱七八咋的经济犯罪。