头疼的HMO——请教大家出谋划策- 我都快疯了

一套HMO出租给不同的5个租客,本和以前的租客都相处得很好,但5个月前搬进来一个事儿妈,自以为是,还说自己是学法律的,把另外一个曾经很好的租客煽动起来找茬,其余3个租客都不想参与,每次他们只要一点点事合理不合理的只要我能办到的都立马安排handyman过去立即解决问题,自从这SB进来后要求要求高得离谱,我也变得越来越没耐心。

看看下面英文是她写的要求明天meeting的内容:

AGENDA DETAILS 房子是全新的有证书的HMO

  1. Agenda- Individuals taking responsibilities for property damages.

a. Microwave -我买成£360的微波炉被他们放金属器皿加热导致微波炉门的里面黑色的防护层出现了一个小拇指大的洞,没人承认,所以也没办法扣钱,我另外买了一个普通的微波炉放厨房台上4个月了但从没人用。

b. Burnt Hole on kitchen counter/surface-也是租客们把太烫的锅放全新的台上烫了一个大拇指大的凹陷,能维修吗?要么得换整个work top?也没人承认也没办法扣他们的钱。

c. Broken freezer draw-全新的冰箱也是他们经常不关严冰箱门而导致冰箱里全部结成冰块把draw冻结了,然后他们使劲拉开而致破裂。

d. Damage from a heavy impact to the wall behind the kitchen door-也是被他们撞出凹陷和涂料掉了,我根本就没提过让负债,想道handyman有时间的时候就过去补好。

e. Island counter surface scorched-也是他们损伤,what can i say?

f. Knob on stove burnt-一部分被他们烧焦

Areas to be looked at;

§ Washing machine cupboard door comes out because machine vibrating heavily. (Not aware of any damages)

§ Skirting boards comes out. (Needs to be put back in place)是洗衣机下面的一块60cm的板子

§ Sink drainer blocker falls apart (Needs to be fixed)-。。。

  1. Agenda- House Keeping/ Cleanliness.

a. You were made aware of the mice/rat infestation and this is one of the main reasons the kitchen especially needs to be deep cleaned and we haven’t heard or seen any resolution from you or the pest controller since his only visit in November last year. -- 先来了一个骗子公司外付了全款做了一次就失踪了,后来我朋友来帮我做了全程treatment,已经没老鼠了,这SB非要有证书的公司。

b. Current cleaner doing minimum cleaning (insufficient for HMO) - 目前有个专业的清洁工每周做一次两小时的清洁

Other areas to be cleaned; anywhere being shared by two people or more needs to be cleaned once or more at least weekly. Such as:

DATE: Sunday, February 11, 2018

TIME: 14:30 PM

LOCATION: (Communal Kitchen Area) 比五星级酒店要求都高,人家专业清洁工每周都在做,她抱怨达不到她的要求,
§ Room 1&2 bathroom

§ Deep clean microwave and double oven

§ Steam clean entire kitchen surface including the floors

§ Door handles (kitchen, front and back doors exits) needs to be cleaned.

§ Glass door to be cleaned

§ Washing machine and dryer to be cleaned and lint to be removed after each use by individuals

§ Microwave needs to be cleaned after each use by individuals

  1. Agenda- Security of tenants and tenants properties.

a. We are not introduced/ informed to people who have copies of the keys to enter the house. Such as handyman/worker and cleaner.--有一个builder有钥匙如果需要任何维修

b. We would like more communications from individuals on people entering the house

c. Individuals threatening and interfering with others property

  1. Agenda- General

a. Communication problem with landlord , majority of us have been disrespected, being prejudiced against leaving persons to feel victimized and very rude with her approach and hanging up within the middle of a conversation and speaks impolitely to us.

b. We feel the need to communicate with landlord where there may be issues arise that cannot be discussed by text and when we call she selected answer certain individuals only. Every time we speak about an issue to Julie, whom we are expecting to represent us as a landlord, she claims she cannot understand what we are saying. ——每次打电话都是抱怨一些比如她感冒了咳嗽说是这房子没有没周洗地毯有而致,她cooking的时候从不开抽油烟机,说抽油烟机上有灰尘如果开了灰尘就会掉进她的菜里,,,这SB,,,,洁工每周都做得仔仔细细,厨房里都是纤尘不染的。所以听她说这些我的忍不住鬼火冒,不想与她说话

c. We find that to be inflammatory/ outrageous especially behavioral remarks/attitude=. I.e “YOU CAN GO/ YOU CAN LEAVE/ DO WANT YOU WANT” and we are expecting her to have respect for us as she would of herself. Otherwise we will be deemed to make complaint to our local council.

d. More chairs within the kitchen area

e. Handy man/worker damaged towel on last job on bathroom Rm 4 (10/02/2018) ——我们已经买了一条新的赔她,

f. Missing parcel still needs to be resolved——是一个租客的女朋友的包裹,打过好多电话要我赔,她根本没权住在里面,但大部分时间都偷偷的住这儿,我睁之眼闭只眼装着不知道,按理是不允许住两人的,人以前很好,我们很聊得来,但自从这SB女人搬进来后就和她一起找茬。

g. Internet broadband modem issues

h. We all need a web link to our individual depositing scheme ——我都把TDS证书那封email转发给了他们每个人,所以他们有证书也有web link,

i. Individual/s being malicious and because of that not having proper communication within the house

  1. Agenda- AOB (Any other business)

Individuals personal/issues to be discussed TBC (To be confirmed)

首先我是没胆分租5户的。 其次看了提的那么多的要求也无语了,还能怎么做呢? Serve notice 请菩萨走吧!

没有任何emergency,没有任何需要修的东西,看不出讨论的这些事情那一个不可以等到你的律师有时间再讨论。

谢谢成龙大哥,emergency的事都是随叫随到的解决了。 你的意思是我可以不用理她,明天不去这个meeting?
按合同最少住6个月, with 1 month break notice,我可以在她刚住满5个月的时候给她1个月的notice让她住满6个月马上搬出去吗?notice的时候需要给理由吗?

现在政府不是打击房东一边倒的保护租客的利益吗,就怕稍不小心就把自己套进去了

楼主,你这样出租净利润大概多少一个月啊?

总是有跟房东讲法律的房客出现。她们美其名曰是维权,动不动就谈法律,太权利,报告council报告警察,找律师。我就是不想被这种事情烦心,也不再搞分租,整租挺好。我的精力分散出来做点其他。不想跟讨厌的人整天打交道。

如果我不去,她说她会call council, 那么她所列的lists上的事会成为council 或者小法庭作为房东不作为的项目吗?

你有跟她签合同吗?赶她走吧

还不到6个月

我还真没计算过到底有多少利润。
就是太费神了,有时候想来真不值

你没有应对措施的时候去参加他们的meeting不是很被动嘛?

很多时候说这个事说那个事找这个理由找那个理由其实都是扯,目的只有一个,钱。估计她考虑到你六个月的时候会给她notice让她走,怕你扣押金所以才搞那么多事。

说的那么多事情其实重点就是第一件事,她要说那些damage要individually responsible,不是jointly responsible,意思就是撇清关系,那些damage都和她无关。

{:5_129:} 不知道利润,怎么报税啊。。
anyway,如果房子利润有超出2000+,值得跟房客斗一斗。

你也不用怕这种傻逼房客,你就告诉她,不想住赶紧走。其他房客也是一样,不住赶紧走。你不要对他们太仁慈,他们说什么就是什么。而是你说什么就是什么。以后也不要跟租房间的人签合同,赶人也容易。告诉council去吧,council如果勒令你停止hmo,他们都得滚。 她有钱找律师,就不会租房间了。这种房客拿个鸡毛当令箭,自以为稍微懂点法律皮毛就吓唬房东。以前我经常赶走这种喜欢讲法律讲权益的房客,动不动就要威胁,告我。说实话,我真的烦了,我现在就想安安静静赚点小钱。.

看这个agenda,估计其它几个房客平时被她搞的快崩溃了吧。

你得想怎么回答她的那些问题。如果是我的话会这样考虑。

1。按照合同办理。
2。定期来做的是professional cleaner,你不知道你怎么能再做的更好。
3。根据你的best knowledge,你认为你找的人都是从可信任的公司来的。
4。respect的问题,你不觉得是个问题,你treat people they same way as they treat 你。

希望你顺利解决这个问题,如果unsure最好找个律师帮你写回信。

已经签合同了,房客没有break任何tenant agreement term赶不走的,就算有break agreement的term也得6个月以后。

成龙大哥太谢谢您了,还是您考虑问题成熟冷静合理合法,,您给的这几点说到我心里去,我就按您说的给她回信,明天不会去参加这个meeting。

在英国果然不能太守法,我有2套5房的都是分别租给5个华人学生,有个华人学生也是特别麻烦,9月初就要求全天24小时开暖气,厨房水渍都要喊我们去找其他租客说,我就忍着,后来我老公去警告了2次,爱住不住,不住就走,后来乖乖的几个月没有出声,现在还有一套2室的租给外国人,已经拖欠房租2个月,我想赶都不敢,我老公就说到时候他就搬进去住,这样把房租赶出去就不怕违法,我倒是问过,就算是自己出租,到时候需要赶人就花点钱找中介赶,中介处个NOTICE过些时间就可以赶
那些细节都生命都造成不了威胁,而且也不是房东的责任,我去年才考了那个房东证,门锁这种安全的,发霉这种的才管,微波炉那个脏看以什么标准了,根本告不了,这种极品房客一天不赶,时间越久越不好赶,我这边专业弄出租屋的都和我说,房子不能和租客签一年以上,时间越久越不好赶,万一将来她说住了有感情,习惯了,法官都考虑他们这些情感在里面。像这种租客我只想送她一句,你开心你住,你觉得不开心随时走

谢谢回复,如果到6个月了我给她1个月的notice搬出去需要写任何理由吗?

谢谢成龙大哥,再请问一下 如果到6个月了我给她1个月的notice搬出去需要写任何理由吗?

要的,但是她不搬的话,好像你也拿她没辙,所以不要给她住的太爽,然后就是先找好中介,中介可以出赶人的信,可以赶人,房东好像不行