BBC刚刚说:英国政府已经放弃科学

高峰时急诊和救护车都挤爆了还叫住院人数少?七月全面放开后NHS一直处于要跪的状态,政府先把几百万手术backlog先清空了再来说住院人数少吧。要不然这么乱搞胡来就是占用老百姓医疗资源

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朋友去年从欧洲过来玩,到苏格兰玩了一圈,坐火车到英格兰后对不戴口罩的比例都惊了。火车在苏格兰始发时全体口罩,一到英格兰就摘下了。

还有美国来的客户也抱怨地铁上那么多人不戴口罩(我心想连美国现在都改正错误做的这么好了吗?也许是州和州之间的差别)。

政府抗疫不给力就说是英格兰人民傻,难道英格兰人智商生来就低?这说不过去啊。。。

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什么壶配什么盖,英国民意就是无lock down, 无口罩:see_no_evil:

想了想口罩这个,也可能高鼻梁的戴着真的不舒服或者压根就护不住还是漏气

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收海淘包裹会染上新冠病毒这种说法是属于相信科学还是放弃科学

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哎,整个就一个乱套 :joy:

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笑死我了 啊哈哈哈!

很多专家不批评或者支持放松防疫政策。贴几个

Professor Dame Anne Johnson PMedSci, President of the Academy of Medical Sciences said:

“It’s encouraging to see in the latest ONS figures that the numbers of COVID-19 cases are falling. However, we’re still seeing an infection level of 1 in 20.

“We should all remember that even as restrictions are relaxed, everyone can still take measures to manage the risk of infection, both to themselves and to those around them who may be more vulnerable.

“Wearing a mask in crowded indoor spaces, as is still advised, is a sensible and important measure to reduce the risk of COVID-19 infection. I would also encourage everyone to stay up to date with their COVID-19, and other, vaccinations.

“It is difficult to predict what the removal of Plan B measures means for levels of COVID-19 infection and resulting hospitalisations. The impact of returning to workplaces on transmission will depend in part on how much it increases the number of contacts people have, both in the workplace and as they travel to work.

“I hope that some respiratory hygiene measures and behaviours will persist in the long run; just as we improved hygiene in hospitals to help reduce the spread of MRSA, we need to think how to build better resilience against respiratory infections in settings like hospitals and care homes, as well as in the community.

“We may be moving into a phase of the pandemic where the population has a high level of immunity to severe disease, arising from natural infection and vaccination. But we must recognise that there is still great uncertainty. Hospitals are still under immense pressure, even with a reduction of COVID-19 admissions, and infection rates remain very high. We may yet see a new variant which causes more serious disease, and the effect of waning immunity is unclear, so we will need to continue keeping a close eye on the data in order to manage future risk.”

Prof Allyson Pollock, Clinical Professor of Public Health, University of Newcastle, said:

“The plans laid out today in the commons are all very sensible.

“Mass testing should stop as there is no evidence it reduces transmission, nor is there any evidence that asking children to wear masks in schools reduces transmission or protects against infection.

“Isolation of contacts should be subject to local public health outbreak team to decide the risks – not a blanket self-isolation of contacts. Testing should be reintegrated into clinical care as part of clinical diagnosis. Testing of symptomless people, if done, should be carefully targeted and evaluated and subject to principles of screening. We also should move away from defining cases of infection as a positive test- to clinical symptoms and clinical significance. Combining asymptomatic infections with symptomatic cases is misleading and distorts the statistics on infections in unvaccinated, people with previous infection, vaccination etc.

“It is very important to allow relatives access to care homes and this is long overdue.”

不批评/支持放松

Prof Francois Balloux, Professor of Computational Systems Biology and Director, UCL Genetics Institute, UCL, said:

“The Covid-19 Omicron wave is currently receding in the UK, with number of cases having fallen sharply over recent days, and hospitalisations now following suite. The situation provides a case for lifting restrictions.”

“Though, healthcare remains under severe stress and the transition into a , long-term, lower number of daily cases needs to be managed carefully. An overly fast return to pre-pandemic behaviour could lead to viral flares, which could cause considerable problems for the NHS, and may risk further delaying the return to ‘post-pandemic normal’.”

“As such, it may be helpful if contact rates in the population didn’t shoot up immediately, but rather slowly increased towards their pre-pandemic level over the spring. This may be achievable through entirely non-coercive measures, as the population will likely remain largely careful over the coming months, in particular if cases momentarily went up again.”

“Work from home, for those whose job permit it, is often considered to be an acceptable restriction, and it is highly effective at reducing viral transmission. It would thus be ideal if the return of people to their workplace were only happening gradually.”

“It is fair to state that the UK has never been in such an auspicious epidemiological situation since the beginning of the pandemic. Protection by vaccines, in particular for those who had three doses has held out remarkably well at protecting against Omicron morbidity and mortality, and has kept hospitalisations and deaths largely in check.”

“Omicron is not the last variant, as viruses continually evolve. Though, given the levels of immunisation achieved in the UK through vaccination and prior infection have, no future viral variant can realistically set us back to a dire situation like those experienced in March 2020, or during the Alpha and Delta waves.”

核心意思就是说,自个承担风险,想戴口罩就戴,不想戴拉倒。得了新冠就自己扛,实在不行找nhs救命。

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贴大段刷屏没用,苹果各位没英国人那么蠢

所谓不反对放开的这几个人,尤其是UCL的Balloux一开始就是出了名的游说政府,不使用疫苗通过感染获得群体免疫,简直灭绝人性。此人还一直号称自己是centrist。

有钱能使鬼推磨

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天要下雨娘要嫁人, 随便吧。

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看戴哪种口罩了

这。。干脆天天打得了

GBD在没疫苗时搞的。如果没有疫苗,大部分国家可能都会像GBD这么做。瑞典之前这么做的。瑞典的死亡比欧洲搞lockdown的大国要好。

首先,瑞典自己都承认抗疫失败了

其次,瑞典人被新冠搞死的比例(红线)远高于各方面相近的其他北欧国家:

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不搞lockdown的瑞典新冠死亡率远少于搞lockdown的英法意德西